So You're A Rebel, Now What?

[MaoZeDong]

Ugh

So, tyranny or an idiot? Welp, I guess I'm going to be making my own rebel town, far, faaaaaar away.
This does not, however, make me want to gut you any less than before and if I have to work with Colesie to do it so be it.

Just so we're clear though, here's what the teams for this fight look like.




-Vision quest complete
Faithfully yours, Mao "Puppy blood is delicious" Ze ****.

[Sachaztan]

If, as you say, it doesn't make any difference then targeting treaty payers is just pointless since it doesn't help weaken the Tribe what so ever.

No you see, it makes no difference that they can wage war without it. The tribute does however make it so much easier for the tribe. Without it they wouldn't be as powerful as they are now.

[Tylan]

MM is obviously the ruling faction, but they aren't a government

You can argue semantics if you'd like, but I can't help but disagree with this notion.

Nonetheless, this is turning into a failed experiment. If you want to overthrow a government (or ruling faction...), you need a platform. Diminishing your platform by mimicry is a sure-fire way to lose support.

[dageir]

Further, killing civilians or civilian operations is frowned upon whether producing for the enemy or not. Would you kill a master's slaves or maim them to keep them from doing what they have been asked to do? Or would you convince them that their gilded bracelets are bonds of servitude and beguile them to your side?

But no, by all means, start attacking treaty payers. Leave those delicious scents so you can be tracked and ended for testing the justice of Plymouth.

Frowned upon? Who cares its war! Yes, killing off the production apparatus is wise. One of the reasons the allies won the war.
Hearts and minds can be won after the war.

Silent enim leges inter arma

[Tylan]

Ugh

So, tyranny or an idiot? Welp, I guess I'm going to be making my own rebel town, far, faaaaaar away.
This does not, however, make me want to gut you any less than before and if I have to work with Colesie to do it so be it.

Just so we're clear though, here's what the teams for this fight look like.

Actually, this is probably more accurate. Bar length is amount of support one way or the other. Green percentage is amount of power derived from listed source. These are estimates but likely very close to the truth.

[thl111]

No you see, it makes no difference that they can wage war without it. The tribute does however make it so much easier for the tribe. Without it they wouldn't be as powerful as they are now.

I don't know. Additional gain of course helps ease off something but do we know how much it does? 5%, 10%, 50% of their work load or 1%. The fact that sticks is they are strong. While targeting treaty payers might help discredit the Tribe's authority, it doesn't gain the rebs any favour in return. And here, we just come back to what we've been arguing about.

Frowned upon? Who cares its war! Yes, killing off the production apparatus is wise. One of the reasons the allies won the war.
Hearts and minds can be won after the war.

At least the Allies had plans to rebuilding Europe while in this case, I don't see anything and if Colesie's side win the war, then what? The rebellion disintegrates and we have multiple factions roaming the land, raiding everything, killing every people, raping every maiden...oh wait. They need to give out a specific plan and have to provide at least equal protection as the Tribe does now. Because if this revolution is just for laugh, staying as it is now and paying for the Tribe seem a better choice than being gang raped by 40 later.

[jwhitehorn]

The Tribe stance on the Rebellion is clear:



Why some choose to follow the piper of the Rebellion remains less clear.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Sachaztan]

So you do believe in Jorb after all?

[Tylan]

So you do believe in Jorb after all?

Of course. We are His creations, fighting daily against the loftar and his wily ways. But I suppose preaching and such would be considered larping and against what the rebels stand for.

[dageir]

The Tribe stance on the Rebellion is clear:



Why some choose to follow the piper of the Rebellion remains less clear.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

Hmm. Nice image. Looks like the eagle comes out from your gourd area.