So You're A Rebel, Now What?

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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Angel_of_Death » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:50 pm

so when do we see dead Braves/chiefs???or is it going to be another couple of months more to hermit??then at end game you guys will get a slingshot and hit chief with it :lol:

im sure all of the people that will be donating to the cause will need to see some action rather than just one hermit base that could easily be for mm

now how about someone put colesie VQ completed :roll:

the only thing that you have done is stole some hay and later on they steal some humus so dont see a war really,not really worth giving anything until some action is done.
Example:(reason)
killing Braves/Chiefs(power)
Raiding Treaty players/killing them(economy)
pissing off MM(fun XD)

also dont see why all the rebellion acts should be put here,if that was the case then all of mm accomplishments should be put in one thread as well
and when did you become the leader of the Rebellion??i must of missed this part too :lol:

edit: trust is earned,and i know im not the only one that dosent fully trust you
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Tylan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:55 pm

Sachaztan wrote:words



If MM isn't a government, what's being rebelled against?

reb·el
/ˈrebəl/
Noun
A person who rises in armed resistance against an established government or ruler.
Verb
Rise in opposition or armed resistance to an established government or ruler.
Synonyms
noun. insurgent - mutineer - insurrectionist - rioter
verb. revolt - mutiny - rise - riot


Further, and again for clarity, the Rebellion will lose its soap box if it resorts to scorched earth tactics against noobs. The end. Without that soapbox, they'd have a better chance of trying to just ask the Tribe nicely to quit the game.

Angel_of_Death wrote: and when did you become the leader of the Rebellion??i must of missed this part too


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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby RainbowMoostache » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:06 pm

I really hate to admit it but, Rebellion will defineatly lose if they don't get a few more men into their army if they wish to win badly.

What you guys are standing up against is a group of players with insanely high humours that could just bullrun and kill you. Depending your own humours, that is.

Like I said in some other thread, I don't really take much seriously on sides [IMONBOTHSIDESEHEUHEUEHEUHE] and all I do is watch and enjoy the entertainment and the QQness it has to offer.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby MaoZeDong » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:12 pm

Tylan wrote:Bluh bluh noob killing bluh.


There are far less crude methods of destroying an entity's capacity to fight than killing. I never even said the word in the post you quoted.

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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Tylan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:16 pm

MaoZeDong wrote:
Tylan wrote:Bluh bluh noob killing bluh.


There are far less crude methods of destroying an entity's capacity to fight than killing. I never even said the word.


Killing a 20 humour noob is the same as wiping their base, bullying them, breaking their gate, and on and on. Your reasoning is still no better than the supposed reasons of what the rebellion stands for.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby MaoZeDong » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:20 pm

Tylan wrote:Rhetoric


Now you're precluding that certain events will take place without even citing evidence for it or elaborating as to why. I do believe your claims only exist to defame The Rebellion.

--edit--
Not that The Rebellion makes a good case for itself when representatives of it go about making fools of themselves.

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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby thl111 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:25 pm

Makes absolutely no difference, what so ever.

If, as you say, it doesn't make any difference then targeting treaty payers is just pointless since it doesn't help weaken the Tribe what so ever.
You are forgetting that this isn't real life and MM isn't even a government.

Do read the quote from MaoZeDong as he used an example of real life and his last statement is a summary of it. I don't argue this point from game perspective.
Only this is exactly what they did, over and over again. It was called Chevauchée in Europe and similar scorched earth methods has been used all over the world throughout world history.

Ah, my bad. You learn new things everyday.
Pretty much the only thing that you say that makes any sense. I don't even think the rebellion cares what happens after the war if it ever ends. Even so, it isn't entirely true. There are many players that got pillaged by MM and then started paying the treaty, some of them might even have had their main killed and then started paying with their new character.

Then what's the point of this movement? Trading a relatively organized state on plymouth for a chaos one? Beside:
this sort of action would only create more rebellions later on, which ironically, is the cause of this current rebellion in the first place.

There are sympathizers, there are also haterz. The circle goes on.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Sachaztan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:40 pm

I think the point of this "rebellion" is nothing more than to have a rebellion. There is no endgame, the purpose of opposing the tribe is opposing the tribe. If you for whatever reason don't want to pay the treaty and don't want to form a proper faction of your own, this is what you are left with.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby jwhitehorn » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:40 pm

Greetings Filthy Squatters of Salem,
It pleases me greatly that the Criminals have finally decided to take some form of "official stance", however poorly worded it was. I urge you all to take a walk with me through the rhetoric of our servers anarchists.


colesie wrote:Image


What is this? A Head-Dress? A coat? No rebellion mask that marks the symbol of the Rebellion and its founding father Mushibag? As you can tell your so-called "Leader" of the Rebellion spends the majority of his time dressing up as a "Larping indian" to avoid Tribe detection.

FUN FACT: Did you know that your Rebellion Leader has a 20+ Page Thread where he donated 10's of thousands of Silver to the Tribe before being outcasted after failing his Vision Quest to join?

CITATION: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3665&hilit=Ranger+of+the+Treaty#p40884


colesie wrote: By not paying the Tribe's blood-tax and by refusing any of their larping nonsense you are then known as a Rebel of Plymouth. You do not need any Rebel affiliations nor are you then forced into helping the Rebel's side.

How does it make the entire server feel to know that Colesie has seized your citizenship without any actions from yourself? Do you see the Tribe running around making broad claims that all players who do NOT donate to Coles are now Tribal Braves? What does it say of an organization who is so desperate for companionship and membership that they simply make broad statements of citizenship and support across hundreds if not thousands of players who care to not be involved in their poor decisions? While the Tribe may punish players for their actions and failure to support the justice system that keeps our server safe at no point in time do we broadly announce your loyalties prior to you making them. The Tribe treats you as free men. Yes, that includes Free to choose death should you fail to pay the treaty, but you are still Free to choose your affiliation none-the-less.

FUN FACT: Did you know that Coles spent weeks building a giant Pit in the MM Lands including a giant paved M? Did you also know that Hustlinguistics also worked on the same pit attempting to improve its grandeur in the name of the Tribe and constantly mocked Coles for his failure to complete it. Does it seem wise to follow an organization whose (2) most outspoken "leaders" failed to complete a simple task yet both mocked each other for the failure?

CITATION:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3431&hilit=Pit+of+Destiny#p37802


colesie wrote:Some ways that you can help the Rebel cause are by... spawning alts on a hearth secret in order to block Indians into the base while under brazier fire...


Here we have YET ANOTHER official Statement from the Rebellion that they fully support alt-spamming and alt-walling which is and has been a major form of bug abuse for months now. You should ask yourself, while you wait for The Great Spirit to patch bugs would you prefer to work with the Tribe who promotes fair gameplay and works to eliminate all unintended game mechanics or should you choose to join the Rebellion who has never been shy about advertising their need for bug abuse?

[b]FUN FACT: Did you know that Coles use to be a "somebody" in HnH? Did you know that he advocated for the bug abuse in that game as well? Did you also know that Coles use to have almost 100 Mines inside of Fields which was also a known bug? Did you know that Coles has quit and has threatened to quit multiple times when bugs get patched in the game? Is this the type of person you really want to affiliate with?

CITATION:
Coles Advocating HnH Bug Abuse
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4450&start=30#p51989
Coles Showing his Bugged Fields Gone
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4450&start=50#p52018



colesie wrote:It has come to my attention that others have been doing things in the name of the Rebellion without taking the time to message myself

Who has elected Colesie to be the voice of the Rebellion? If a Rebel is truly "somebody who does not pay the treaty" then do all those hundreds of players know that Coles has appointed himself as their single voice and do they know that they may not voice their objectives without messaging him first? When is the last time you saw the Tribe openly reprimands their Braves on the forums for sharing their voice and individuality?

colesie wrote:However, we do frown upon a few things...
and constant conversations with Tribal members are looked down on while doing things in the name of the Rebellion)

The Rebellion is giving the illusion of the less strict organization in terms of rules and commitments, however, before this post is even done we see that you are regulated on who you can even talk to. For an organization that hangs its banners on the guise of freedom you would think that "Freedom of Speech" would have clawed its way higher on their list of priorities.

colesie wrote:Image

I find it fitting that he concludes his post with The Mask he is too scared to wear even when he pretends to be leading his people. I believe this sums up the "Rebellion" well.

FUN FACT: Did you know that choosing to affiliate with Coles causes your base and all witnesses to be eliminated when you are found?

CITATION: Rebel base
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Sachaztan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:41 pm

Tylan wrote:
Sachaztan wrote:words



If MM isn't a government, what's being rebelled against?

reb·el
/ˈrebəl/
Noun
A person who rises in armed resistance against an established government or ruler.
Verb
Rise in opposition or armed resistance to an established government or ruler.
Synonyms
noun. insurgent - mutineer - insurrectionist - rioter
verb. revolt - mutiny - rise - riot


Further, and again for clarity, the Rebellion will lose its soap box if it resorts to scorched earth tactics against noobs. The end. Without that soapbox, they'd have a better chance of trying to just ask the Tribe nicely to quit the game.

Angel_of_Death wrote: and when did you become the leader of the Rebellion??i must of missed this part too


More schisming!


MM is obviously the ruling faction, but they aren't a government
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