"Belling" fix

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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby Ornery » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:18 am

It'd be a 50% loss to use it as a bank like that (barring upkeep but that's almost nothing even on large claims), but 50% isn't bad when you consider it's completely safe from any type of theft outside of account theft by being in your bank. It can also be transferred to other servers this way, which is the real danger.
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby Grichmann » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:26 am

50% sounds relatively fair, actually; especially if you have to pay something to issue an eviction notice, as well.

I'm not sure where you got the transferring to other servers from, though. In the system I'm proposing, silver can only be withdrawn from the claim by its owner, directly to the character. It does not go to any sort of intermediary.
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby Ornery » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:34 am

lol thought i read it as it withdrawing into your bank when you get the eviction. disregard the cross server thing then.
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby Darwoth » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:21 pm

pretty sure it is fine how it is, spend 2500 silver on a bell or make your claim larger than a shoebox and you wont have an issue.
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby Etherdrifter » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:52 pm

The goal of the idea was to fix an exploit used to evade crime.

Magic's reply got me thinking, rightful eviction would be made harder by this.

A quick question before I continue, can a personal claim be put down within the village limits of a village you are not a member of?
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby Darwoth » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:26 am

there is no exploit involved, if you want to secure the area spend the meager amount to do so and buy a bell which is why they exist to begin with.

***** about this is the same thing as whining about the criminal system when you have no walls or braziers, though i guess that is not uncommon around here either :lol:
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby Attelso » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:37 am

Lets keep the language sober.
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby bocage » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:18 pm

I do dislike the belling move. I do fear the belling move. I settled in an undesirable area. On purpose, so that there would not be incentive for someone else to want my lands and fewer neighbors. Something I used to survive in HnH. I am in the middle of Badlands. I am very far from lime. It is not on water. I haven't seen or found any mines nearby. I play almost daily but for short periods. I want to hermit and my character survive. I am not able to afford a bell and the upkeep. I would like to slowly build a defensive base to protect my items and structures. I have a stone wall and would like to build plank and would need many more braziers, but have come to an unsettling realization that the plank wall and braziers are more valuable and time consuming than the items I have to protect. I am fearful that if I spend months slowly building my base someone will decide they like what I have built and bell me without having to battle through the defenses that I have strategically and painstakingly placed. So rather not build it, which is kind of like not playing the game.
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby L33LEE » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:32 pm

belling should do the following when you intend to purchase / buyout someone elses claim.

apon purchasing the claim, there should be a 24-48h cooling off period, were there is a timer for the claim owner to be evicted, and the eviction can be stopped by the mayor to work out "problems".

Second, if the eviction goes through, the evicted should get 1 summonable scent from the mayor of the bell, and can only be used by the evicted to summon the mayor for revenge reasons.

These are 2 features which are missing from the belling.
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Re: "Belling" fix

Postby CharlesM » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:48 pm

L33LEE wrote:belling should do the following when you intend to purchase / buyout someone elses claim.

apon purchasing the claim, there should be a 24-48h cooling off period, were there is a timer for the claim owner to be evicted, and the eviction can be stopped by the mayor to work out "problems".

Second, if the eviction goes through, the evicted should get 1 summonable scent from the mayor of the bell, and can only be used by the evicted to summon the mayor for revenge reasons.

These are 2 features which are missing from the belling.



I don't know, that seems very contrived and doesn't really make sense.
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