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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby colesie » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:37 pm

L33LEE wrote:
colesie wrote:347ish brazier activations and counting :)


I would love to know how brazier > coal usage you have witnessed why have been siegeing mushi.

From what i understood it used 1 coal per activation, and lasts 8 mins.

All braziers within 5 tiles of each other trigger in a chain reaction.

So if all braizers inbase are connected by 5 tiles, you drain 1 coal from each every 8~ mins.

Lets asume 50~ :?: braziers around the walls?

50x340 = 17,000 coal.

So clearly my understanding of how braizers works is flawed.

Even if it was 1 coal per 3 activations, thats still 5000+ coal.

Either im missing something, or mushi has a huge coal donator.

I'm going to respond to this now. I'd kept it under my hat for a brief amount of time but since it's no longer a factor I'll tell you all something Jorb told me about braziers.

They're *****.

I asked the same thing, 1 coal per activation?
He replied with "More, much more" but wasn't sure on an exact number. I asked for a ballpark of how many activations it takes for a full brazier to completely deplete, he told me 500+
I then asked if that was since the brazier buffs and if that was a bug since the patch to which he said, it's always been that way.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! 37ish activations took the tribe like 6 hours to get up to, so gg braziers, braz-on!
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby colesie » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:18 pm

Cleaned up literally half a thread of pointless derail, really? Keep on topic with the Mushibag seige for the 3rd time
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby alloin » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:58 pm

colesie wrote:I'm going to respond to this now. I'd kept it under my hat for a brief amount of time but since it's no longer a factor I'll tell you all something Jorb told me about braziers.

They're *****.

I asked the same thing, 1 coal per activation?
He replied with "More, much more" but wasn't sure on an exact number. I asked for a ballpark of how many activations it takes for a full brazier to completely deplete, he told me 500+
I then asked if that was since the brazier buffs and if that was a bug since the patch to which he said, it's always been that way.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! 37ish activations took the tribe like 6 hours to get up to, so gg braziers, braz-on!

I'm 100% sure that before the patch, braziers would deplete faster !

or does the amount of shots deplete them faster ?
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby colesie » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:04 pm

alloin wrote:
colesie wrote:I'm going to respond to this now. I'd kept it under my hat for a brief amount of time but since it's no longer a factor I'll tell you all something Jorb told me about braziers.

They're *****.

I asked the same thing, 1 coal per activation?
He replied with "More, much more" but wasn't sure on an exact number. I asked for a ballpark of how many activations it takes for a full brazier to completely deplete, he told me 500+
I then asked if that was since the brazier buffs and if that was a bug since the patch to which he said, it's always been that way.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! 37ish activations took the tribe like 6 hours to get up to, so gg braziers, braz-on!

I'm 100% sure that before the patch, braziers would deplete faster !

or does the amount of shots deplete them faster ?

Jorb told me it's always been that way even since braziers were implemented.
And I believe activations are what affects it, not shots but Jorb wasn't even sure lol
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby Mushibag » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:10 pm

I'm thinking it must be the amount of actual shots, because they didn't really shoot much, the injuns were just coming and lighting them up then running away til they went out, and coming back to relight them. Also, fyi, you can refill braziers. :o I don't really think draining braziers should be a viable tactic anyway, tbh.

UPDATE:
Day 4. It looks like they've pretty much given up. All they did yesterday was bash one wall: Image I left it like that last night when I went to bed, and it was still the same when I woke up.

Also, Procne's base is alive and well, I've been keeping an eye on it. It looks like they got into the outter area once, then after he repaired the walls, they left.
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby darnokpl » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:45 pm

colesie wrote:Jorb told me it's always been that way even since braziers were implemented.
And I believe activations are what affects it, not shots but Jorb wasn't even sure lol


Long time ago I read that single brazier is easy to deplete 1 coal per activation, but when clustered then Jobtar's magic sqrts are starting to work.
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby colesie » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:46 pm

darnokpl wrote:
colesie wrote:Jorb told me it's always been that way even since braziers were implemented.
And I believe activations are what affects it, not shots but Jorb wasn't even sure lol


Long time ago I read that single brazier is easy to deplete 1 coal per activation, but when clustered then Jobtar's magic sqrts are starting to work.

No. I also asked him if the drain lowered with the more braziers shooting and he said no they're all the same as if they were single shooting
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby darnokpl » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:52 pm

colesie wrote:No. I also asked him if the drain lowered with the more braziers shooting and he said no they're all the same as if they were single shooting


No idea how it is right now, but pre-wipe 200 shots from braziers didn't depleted them, but I didn't tested activation method back then.
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby colesie » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:55 pm

darnokpl wrote:
colesie wrote:No. I also asked him if the drain lowered with the more braziers shooting and he said no they're all the same as if they were single shooting


No idea how it is right now, but pre-wipe 200 shots from braziers didn't depleted them, but I didn't tested activation method back then.

No one said 200 shots? I said 500+ activations and it's the exact same as it was when braziers were implemented not "right now" :?:
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Re: Mushibag vs MM Tribe - Treaty? No Thank You

Postby Mushibag » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:59 pm

colesie wrote:
darnokpl wrote:
colesie wrote:No. I also asked him if the drain lowered with the more braziers shooting and he said no they're all the same as if they were single shooting


No idea how it is right now, but pre-wipe 200 shots from braziers didn't depleted them, but I didn't tested activation method back then.

No one said 200 shots? I said 500+ activations and it's the exact same as it was when braziers were implemented not "right now" :?:

lrn2read Colesie... He was just stating his past experience with it.
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