Chrumps wrote:You seem to believe banning changes anything.
Consider alarm plugin. How one would efficiently enforce the ban ?
this is a really horrible argument for lazy people i have heard hundreds of times since oh 1995 or so when i started this hobby, every lazy dev team in every small to medium sized game has used it until their game was destroyed and they went under or they stopped being stupid and fixed the problem. i am aware you can not fully "prevent" cheat programs, i am also aware that java is about the worst possible platform in existence to build a game on and as such that much more difficult to remedy.
there have been botting jackasses in salem since the very beginning during paradoxs reign (mostly russians) however it was not a game ruining problem until the past year with this stupid ***** "plugin" garbage, the ever expanded library of "allowed" (and unallowed) "plugins" along with constant up to date tutorials on the forum on how to create, troubleshoot and use the bots that issues such as "needing" to cause everyone a collossal pain in the ass to "fix" the "easy character spam" from botters using fruit juice in their distiller plugin that fruit and the sudden need to ***** with it and cause more pointless time sinks (in what is already the biggest grind on the internet) magically became an issue.
which was pretty much my first concern well over a year ago when i raised the issue, "it wont be a problem, this lets us "know whats out there d00d" so we can "fix botting". yeah, like pvp three years ago
it was not until "someone" with zero experience in any competitive pvp game gave the go ahead on that in spite of said protests that the game was condemned to failure thanks to said "plugins" because until then the people who used bots were sparse and kept it quiet as they were not legal. now there is no need to do so because they are.
switching certain **** to serverside, implementing randomization (ie flower menu is not always the same, time intervals are randomized, inventory objects do not always open in the same spot, items have a unique id number instead of a generic "distiller" and so on) along with lots of other anti bot measures used successfully in many other games that gave a ***** about a real solution instead of ***** with the game mechanics and causing headaches to the entire playerbase in order to fix a botter created problem.
yeah, there will always be people that suck using some form of bot. making it legal thus publically acceptable and freely available/discussable on the forums and in the nerdcord channel like a complete retard is why virtually the entire game uses them now instead of less than ten percent like before. as a result stupid grind increasing changes like this will continue to be implemented across every aspect of the game in an effort to glue pointless bandaid "fixes" over a sucking chest wound which instead of "fixing" anything at all does nothing but make the problem worse until it kills the host.
a short term fix to the fruit issue that would take all of 2 minutes is changing the fruit recipes to no longer use berry juice, this was suggested a year or more ago. by me. because of this exact problem. as always i am ignored and the exact problem i said would occur does in the exact manner i said it would.
a mid term fix to the fruit issue to even the field between botters and non botters would be upon the end of concord allowing grape juice (in a larger amount than berry juice currently uses) to be used as a replacement.
BOTH of the above solutions fix the character spamming, leave existing mechanics alone and do not antagonize the playerbase in any way whatsoever.
prior to the distiller bot nobody used berry juice for their gluttoning because it was the least efficient. when i was still statting up combat alts i had something like 600 bee skeps at one point in order to produce enough honey to make an everbloom of fruit every two weeks as honey takes a long time to build up. the fruit juice bot you can make enough **** for ten everblooms in a few hours. its ***** stupid and has been breaking the game for the last solid year. every single newb who has been **** on and ragequit by the type of ******* that gets themselves killed over 20 times in two weeks can thank this plugin and berry juice.
an ACTUAL FIX to the fruit issues and all the others created by this current pro botting retard climate would be to feign giving a **** and then regain control of the ***** game from script kiddie nerds by having a real client made, outlaw all others, get rid of the stupid ***** artifice forum completely, implement anti botting measures and then enforce them.
edit: it would appear a dozen "Asendra" alt accounts wish for the ten tile option.
personally i agree, if more dumb **** is going to be put in we should at least go all the way and make it as dumb as humanly possible.
as such the disease should be a very aggressive verdant form of ebola imo and should spread to every tree AND plant AND ground tile on the same loaded map tile. additionally it should not only infect the trees but when the tree "dies" it falls over and explodes into shards of wood causing a few hundred million damage and permakilling everyone near it.
furthermore rotten fruit should give no indicator it is rotten until you eat it, if you fall over dead after ten bites it was rotten. there should also be the ability to airburst a boomstick barrel into an orchard showering the trees in boomsticks turning a percentage of the fruit you pick into fruit grenades that will blow your arm off when you pick the fruit giving you a hook hand, like kuku used to have before her hand was magically glued back on somehow.