yoohoo wrote:TotalyMeow wrote:Actually, there never was any conclusive evidence that Russia was behind the hacking of the DNC. It's just what some people assumed and the media took up the assumption as useful to their narrative and decided it must be true. Now, everyone just thinks that's what happened.
What sort of evidence are you looking for? The server logs? Probably ain't gonna happen. At very least they won't post them on wnd, breitbart, drudge, infowars, or daily stormer. The cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC found IPs associated with both hacking orgs run by FSB and GRU, respectively. These are established, already known, groups. FBI, CIA, and NSA found same. Or, you know, a 400 pound dude on a bed bc Russian mob money launderer gameshow host foreign intel asset said so. He has the biggest crowds. How can we know anything? It's so hard. That pizza place in dc has child hooker slaves!!!
yoohoo wrote:What sort of evidence are you looking for? The server logs? Probably ain't gonna happen. At very least they won't post them on wnd, breitbart, drudge, infowars, or daily stormer. The cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC found IPs associated with both hacking orgs run by FSB and GRU, respectively. These are established, already known, groups. FBI, CIA, and NSA found same. Or, you know, a 400 pound dude on a bed bc Russian mob money launderer gameshow host foreign intel asset said so. He has the biggest crowds. How can we know anything? It's so hard. That pizza place in dc has child hooker slaves!!!
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TotalyMeow wrote:yoohoo wrote:What sort of evidence are you looking for? The server logs? Probably ain't gonna happen. At very least they won't post them on wnd, breitbart, drudge, infowars, or daily stormer. The cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC found IPs associated with both hacking orgs run by FSB and GRU, respectively. These are established, already known, groups. FBI, CIA, and NSA found same. Or, you know, a 400 pound dude on a bed bc Russian mob money launderer gameshow host foreign intel asset said so. He has the biggest crowds. How can we know anything? It's so hard. That pizza place in dc has child hooker slaves!!!
Sure, there have been 'anonymous sources' on the Russian connection, and plenty of news reports as well. But there was never anything conclusive. Just like this assassination story has nothing conclusive and nothing but anonymous sources and various news reports that really mean nothing. It seems these days people choose what to believe from the news based on what they want to believe already. You hear something you like, you believe it because you like it, not because there's any proof that it's true. And that trend has just been getting worse in the last few months.
This assassination story is crap. So is the entire Russian collusion narrative that has gone on for months and hasn't actually gone anywhere.
yoohoo wrote:"Assassination?" Some random dude got shot in America. Have you been here before? That happens every day.
There's a decent Wired article about the traces of the DNC hack to Russia. There isn't any controversy about it in the Senate or House or among anybody, really. We do this crap to them, too. It isn't mysterious or unknown. Weird that we were dumb enough to fall for it, but whatever, Murka.
Putin isn't a moron teevee host. He's a KGB officer. Let's try harder next time, guys. The Russia investigation is proceeding. Gone on for months? Like the Benghazi investigation?
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TotalyMeow wrote:yoohoo wrote:"Assassination?" Some random dude got shot in America. Have you been here before? That happens every day.
Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Too focused on yourself to pay attention?There's a decent Wired article about the traces of the DNC hack to Russia. There isn't any controversy about it in the Senate or House or among anybody, really. We do this crap to them, too. It isn't mysterious or unknown. Weird that we were dumb enough to fall for it, but whatever, Murka.
Sure, Russia has been trying their best to interfere with us pretty much since we became a power in the world. We've been doing the same to EVERYONE else. However, no actual investigative agency has found anything solid. At best so far, there is some evidence that Flynn or Manafort might have been involved in some completely different wrongdoing.Putin isn't a moron teevee host. He's a KGB officer. Let's try harder next time, guys. The Russia investigation is proceeding. Gone on for months? Like the Benghazi investigation?
I'm not sure what you mean. The "Trump is a pawn of Russia" thing has been the narrative being pushed since, what, January? November? There's no evidence of it, but it's still there and being focused on like it's actually a thing. Benghazi was hushed up to the point where you actually had to look for it to have any idea that anything was happening at all and that actually was something, it really WAS a major scandal. But the press so loved Obama that neither he nor anyone on his staff could do any wrong so it was mostly ignored.
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TotalyMeow wrote: Claeyt's perspective of Salem and what it's about is very different from the devs and in many cases is completely the opposite of what we believe.
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