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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby TotalyMeow » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:37 am

Posting tonight from poofy chair in front of fireplace so just a brief comment that I read the linked WP article. It was an opinion piece by a psychologist that had one line claiming that one unspecified study found that preschoolers who were judged to have more anxiety had a tendency to become conservatives in their thirties. But the study wasn't cited. No actual stats were given. He didn't say if that was a conclusion of the study or his conclusion. And he didn't say how much that differed from the fact that a lot of people tend to swing toward conservative as they mature. And Claeyt got his entire post about how all Republicans are terrified of the world from that one sentence.

I would like to see Cleayt support his very bigoted claim that Trump voters are of low IQ and education compared to Hilary voters.

Also... is Claeyt pro Second Amendment now?
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Darwoth » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:58 am

Claeyt wrote:Anti-Fascism violence



and here you have it folks, this is the final card in the deck of communism.

if you are a "fascist" you must be killed. of course anyone that wants to own their own property, have freedom of thought and uphold the norms of their culture is labelled a "fascist" you know, anyone that is not a communist like them :lol: :lol: :lol:

aside from those who simply enjoy shooting this is why the right arm themselves claeyt, not out of "fear" but because history has proven that the "progressive" communists always try to line those that do not agree with them up against the wall. this was easy to do in disarmed europe, it is an impossibility here which is why this country is the last truly free one left on the planet.

youtube and liveleak are FLOODED in videos of these people setting random girls hair on fire at protests, sucker punching strangers at airports, burning property, advocating the death and subjugation of white males, theft of wealth and on and on. it has built for two years now and since america spoke and rejected their ideology they have come completely unhinged. they are communists. the traditional enemy of EVERYONE in this country.

the communist ideology is one of smug "i am going to tell YOU what to do and what you can have and i will endlessly strive to enforce MY will on EVERYONE ELSE anyone that disagrees must me executed or imprisoned"

the american ideology is "leave me alone, my **** is my ****, get off my lawn"

and this is why they DESPERATELY push gun control, like they do in EVERY country they try to destroy from within, because they can not defeat an armed population that would be more than happy to do their patriotic duty to shoot back at the piece of **** that wants to steal everything he has and burn his house down. communists are cowards, they do not have the will to try and force theirs on those who can fight back, this is why they always surround some random weak looking person by themselves 15 - 1 before attacking them from behind and then running away. in contrast when you see a pissed off american he typically charges into the middle of all these beta ***** knocking them out of the way to directly confront whoever the loudest one is.

the part that is obvious to everyone that has not drank the koolaid is that the communist is the oppressor that hates freedom, most of them know this as well which is why they endlessly level a tirade of those accusations on anyone that disagrees with them so as to take the spotlight off of them. projection.
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Claeyt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:33 am

TotalyMeow wrote:I would like to see Cleayt support his very bigoted claim that Trump voters are of low IQ and education compared to Hilary voters.

Also... is Claeyt pro Second Amendment now?


Easy and quick 2 mins of searching:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... se/508703/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/edu ... for-trump/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... education/

and on being uninformed, Trump voters received their news almost exclusively from FOX news

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/ ... ers-233773

People who exclusively watch FOX for their news are the least informed

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-wa ... all-2012-5

Interestingly, not shown here but I've studied it before, you may not know this but the 'College Degree Gap' which favored Republicans since the Civil War and grew smaller during Nixon's administration actually flipped during Bush 2's time in office. After that Obama carried the most people with higher ed degrees by small margins and it's now highly favored towards the Democrats after Trump. This is one of the longest studied trend lines in U.S. voting history.

I have never been against the second amendment. I have always stated that I support greater controls on the type of guns and who can own and sell them, but not on ownership itself. I have stated I would prefer a gun licensing system like Canada's that restricts hand guns to the equivalent of having a driver's license and restricts all other non-hunting guns to special clubs and storage.
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Dallane » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:40 am

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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Darwoth » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:43 am

Claeyt wrote:I have never been against the second amendment. I have always stated that I support greater controls on the type of guns and who can own and sell them, but not on ownership itself. I have stated I would prefer a gun licensing system like Canada's that restricts hand guns to the equivalent of having a driver's license and restricts all other non-hunting guns to special clubs and storage.



yes, this means you are against the second amendment.

you are a liar that makes a laughable attempt to conceal your agenda just like all the other ***** communists
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Dallane » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:54 am

Darwoth wrote:
Claeyt wrote:I have never been against the second amendment. I have always stated that I support greater controls on the type of guns and who can own and sell them, but not on ownership itself. I have stated I would prefer a gun licensing system like Canada's that restricts hand guns to the equivalent of having a driver's license and restricts all other non-hunting guns to special clubs and storage.



yes, this means you are against the second amendment.

you are a liar that makes a laughable attempt to conceal your agenda just like all the other ***** communists


Well look at that a commie wants to bring more commie laws to America. GJ clay
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Claeyt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:56 am

Darwoth wrote:If you are a "fascist" you must be killed. of course anyone that wants to own their own property, have freedom of thought and uphold the norms of their culture is labelled a "fascist" you know, anyone that is not a communist like them.


If you had read Orwell at all you'd understand his definition of fascism included Stalinists.

Nearing the end of WWII, Orwell was amazed at the growth in the use of calling other political beliefs fascist including Stalinism, Communism, Nationalism and Colonialism. He was well known for his having fought with the International brigades in the Spanish Civil War against Franco's fascists so he was asked to define fascism. He wrote this brief article for the Tribune titled "What is Fascism" in 1944 talking about his definition of it:

http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/A ... lish/efasc

Yet underneath all this mess there does lie a kind of buried meaning. To begin with, it is clear that there are very great differences, some of them easy to point out and not easy to explain away, between the régimes called Fascist and those called democratic. Secondly, if ‘Fascist’ means ‘in sympathy with Hitler’, some of the accusations I have listed above are obviously very much more justified than others. Thirdly, even the people who recklessly fling the word ‘Fascist’ in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.


In the last paragraphs he defines it to himself as any political party or system that is "being undemocratic" and "being a bully". I think that increasingly defines Trump and his movement and if they do try to change the fundamental bedrocks of our Democracy with violence I would volunteer to fight it even if Darwoth and Dallane wouldn't.

The greatest threat to America isn't immigrants or Muslims or the Chinese; it's the Republican and Trump's belief that anti-democracy measures such as voter suppression and gerrymandering are necessary for their party to maintain control and good for our democracy.
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Dallane » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:59 am

lol look at clay trying to change the subject of gun control to orwell then to him being a traitor.

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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Claeyt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:06 am

Dallane wrote:
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Darwoth wrote:
yes, this means you are against the second amendment.

you are a liar that makes a laughable attempt to conceal your agenda just like all the other ***** communists


Dallane wrote:
Well look at that a commie wants to bring more commie laws to America. GJ clay


Dallane wrote:
lol look at clay trying to change the subject of gun control to orwell then to him being a traitor.

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Orwellian Mic Drop (and Dallane and Darwoth won't even understand) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Darwoth » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:25 am

i know a good deal about orwell you ***** idiot, you are simply using yet another tactic of your ilk where you try and muddy the waters by attaching yourself to something else just like when neonazis try to use the confederate flag and make reference to confederate generals, as such your entire spiel was largely ignored. you are in favor of every policy that would CREATE the orwellian nightmare. because you are A COMMUNIST, i know you rely on the fact that most people do not know what a stallinist vs leninist vs whateverist is but it wont work with me *****. whatever flavor you want to call yourself is irrelevant, you are a communist that seeks to control others and as such an enemy to every american citizen by default whatever their personal beliefs are.
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