Build House OWN ?

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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby TotalyMeow » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:49 pm

Nsuidara wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Mostly, it does. We love the crafting and the terraforming and the building, but the real point of Salem is the open PvP, the open loot, and the permadeath.

little lie... because how many player hunt for other and kill other ? (mean how many player play for pvp in salem ? judaism ? kuku ? dwar.. ? )


Rude much? No, I'm not lying. Salem is designed with PvP and related activities as the basis. Everything else, the base building, the 'leveling' system, everything revolves around that. Sure we love the crafting and sandbox aspects and they are certainly vital to the overall game, but they're not the main point.

As far as a custom house goes, I'd love to see an ability to add additions, cellars, whatnot, to houses after they are built, and some of that might be possible, but the systems we have in place now would need some pretty heavy modification to add anything like what you're suggesting.
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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby gorniksam » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:36 pm

Nsuidara wrote:who said i havent or have ?
meybe i not interested about that yet ?
meybe i not wanna yet ?
because most women in Poland are abnormal? mental broken and strange?
and stop build offtopic... woman...

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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby Kralith » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:55 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:
Nsuidara wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Mostly, it does. We love the crafting and the terraforming and the building, but the real point of Salem is the open PvP, the open loot, and the permadeath.

little lie... because how many player hunt for other and kill other ? (mean how many player play for pvp in salem ? judaism ? kuku ? dwar.. ? )


Rude much? No, I'm not lying. Salem is designed with PvP and related activities as the basis. Everything else, the base building, the 'leveling' system, everything revolves around that. Sure we love the crafting and sandbox aspects and they are certainly vital to the overall game, but they're not the main point.

As far as a custom house goes, I'd love to see an ability to add additions, cellars, whatnot, to houses after they are built, and some of that might be possible, but the systems we have in place now would need some pretty heavy modification to add anything like what you're suggesting.


Meow... i guess Nsu don't know the meaning of a lie. I trap into this twice last 2 days.

And that what you describe is the truth!
Because yesss, we love this building up our bases much, but at the same time we love the fear to lost all our hard work.
Main reason i'm playing this game is to have this many little adrenaline rushes if you perform things for that the game is designed.
Yes i do enjoy to decorate my Lith Home, but i also love the politics, the crime, the never-know-who-to-trust and many other aspects of this game.
We do not need to improve settlement building system.
It is enough that we get sometimes new new things for our bases, but much more we need to get improvements of the "survival aspect". Means improvements to the raid system, to the politic system, to the fight system and to the mystics of this game.
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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby Nsuidara » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:57 pm

It is only an idea not more not less...

I still think the PVP is totally geared for several players :)

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Kralith wrote:Meow... i guess Nsu don't know the meaning of a lie. I trap into this twice last 2 days.

And that what you describe is the truth!
Because yesss, we love this building up our bases much, but at the same time we love the fear to lost all our hard work.
Main reason i'm playing this game is to have this many little adrenaline rushes if you perform things for that the game is designed.
Yes i do enjoy to decorate my Lith Home, but i also love the politics, the crime, the never-know-who-to-trust and many other aspects of this game.
We do not need to improve settlement building system.
It is enough that we get sometimes new new things for our bases, but much more we need to get improvements of the "survival aspect". Means improvements to the raid system, to the politic system, to the fight system and to the mystics of this game.

lie is lie not less not more...

why lie ?
ask each player for play PvP ? or meybe play for sandbox ?

I would this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2nI4IlWWPE not call PvP
prosecution/oppression weaker player
if point is PvP = this point so weak and broken...

but I agree i like many points this game :P
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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby Silverfish » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:06 am

[lets dream]
- leave existing structures as they are
- add new structure-area, the CASTLE
- the rules:
+ new action based on paving (lay _floor_) to mark all structure tiles on the ground level, any paving stone needed
+ no inner gaps/holes, area flat etc.
+ use existing walls stone+ , if its put on the _floor_ it becomes castle wall instead of common wall, same with the gates, those walls should be climbable and allow to walk around
+ use the new "lay floor" action to put 1st level floor, got to be placed on the top surface of the castle walls or 1 tile from any existing floor so we can go over the lower level with its ceiling and current floor
+ floor "diggable" (need destroy action animation) with the paving material HP and dmg soak
+ add stairway structure - unusable (climb only) until level closed
+ once the castle level is all surrounded by walls and got all tiles but the stairs covered with ceiling it becomes the proper castle level providing all interior features (furniture/manequin protection, wallpapers, hideout for char so noone see it from outside)
+ castle level provides valid interior until one of the: wall tiles, ceiling surface tiles, stairway is destroyed

... todo: windows, roof, trapdoors, defensive candelabrum and so on ;P
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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby TotalyMeow » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:18 am

Thread was getting hard to read with all the derails so I removed some of them. Nsuidara and gorniksam, please stop stalking and flirting with each other in every damn thread one of you posts in. You're only derailing. Get a chat room or something.

As for the castle thing, it's a cute idea, but completely impossible for Salem. Salem is 2.5D, not 3D, which means that the game looks 3D, but it's not possible to have a second level of anything in the same world. That's why we can't have true bridges or balconies on the houses and why the inside of a house and each floor of that house is its own world detached from the rest of the map.
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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby Nsuidara » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:03 am

TotalyMeow wrote:Thread was getting hard to read with all the derails so I removed some of them. Nsuidara and gorniksam, please stop stalking and flirting with each other in every damn thread one of you posts in. You're only derailing. Get a chat room or something.

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TotalyMeow wrote:As for the castle thing, it's a cute idea, but completely impossible for Salem. Salem is 2.5D, not 3D, which means that the game looks 3D, but it's not possible to have a second level of anything in the same world. That's why we can't have true bridges or balconies on the houses and why the inside of a house and each floor of that house is its own world detached from the rest of the map.

It is possible to create castles in Salem, just a little differently than you think.
I wonder whether it is possible to manipulate the position Z/Y (vertical) of objects, if true then is possible.

The player would manage building build all floor, rooms (for only desing)
if completion build then one algorithm that created structure of the rooms, such as is currently houses in the game.

example, when you build
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(look for walls only)
you see 5 rooms in 1th floor
if completion build then algorithm transfer carries rooms on the new map (smillar what it is now... )
and completion build display only "outside walls"

of course it was necessary to take of certain restrictions
no balconies, can't many door in outsie, not towers...

However, I think it was fun to build bigger homes and for example max 2-3 floors :)
However, anyone that life is not needed :P

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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby Dallane » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:06 pm

God I miss ultima.
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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby Thor » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:08 pm

Dallane wrote:God I miss ultima.


Me too.

But in ultima house was all you had, there was no land claiming IIRC. That ia different from salem.
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Re: Build House OWN ?

Postby Nsuidara » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:55 pm

Thor wrote:But in ultima house was all you had, there was no land claiming IIRC. That ia different from salem.

not now :]
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