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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Kmab » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:34 am

I live in "post-communist" country were "socialism" was the state ideology, so I have personal experience with full scale socialism.
I hate any aspect of this political system. It is pure evil.
In long term, from a sociological point of view, it is a system against humans. It kills people talents, entrepreneurship, change mentality of people etc.
(Orwell quite well described it in "1984"). Unfortunately both EU and USA are on path to socialism right now. Cutting personal freedom, and implementing more and more regulations, barriers etc.
So from my point of view, Trump (although crank), is better option than Clinton or Sanders.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Argentis » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:08 pm

Darwoth wrote:as i stated when trump first announced his run for the nomination he will be the next president and there has been absolutely nothing in the six or so months since then that has dissuaded that view, the only chance that he will not handily win the election is if he gets torpedoed by his own party (which has been trying everything they can to nuke him since the beginning) that are butthurt because after three decades of republicans acting like democrats their entire world has been turned upside down on account of someone with simply a basic grasp on conservatism coming along.

trump is the only conservative that will win the election, kasich is a ***** that absolutely nobody i know has anything good to say about, cruz is the only real alternative to trump that is palatable to republican voters and he will not win the election as trump is the only one with the platform to mobilize the silent majority of americans who are long tired of everything the left has been behind, cruz does not.

the republicans will either nominate trump or destroy their party when they ***** him over at the convention and lose millions of republicans to the libertarian party, there will be enough disenfranchised that will simply stay home that the democrat nominee will win by default is trump is not the candidate which is how obama bin laden got elected in the first place.

additionally this election is not about what "trump will get done" it is about being unafraid to bring up issues that the ******* have been tip toeing around for 30 years and ignoring for political expedience along with putting a stopleak into the liberals bleeding the country to death(including the liberals that pretend to be republicans, of which there are many), when i turn on the tv it is disgusting beyond words to see just how god awful stupid the mid 20s crowd in this country are

"well hey man i kinda like sanders, i know nothing about politics, the issues, economics or a god damn thing about anything for that matter, but the communist that flies in direct opposition to every american value the country is founded on sugar coated his ***** counting on me to be to dumb to know anything and said he will give me free **** in the form of low quality healthcare and a dime a dozen degree at a liberal arts college that isn't worth the paper it is printed on, but hey at least i did not have to pay for the four years of sanctioned brainwashing that will be make me a more manageable slave like your average european. and i mean the trillions of dollars of extra taxes it will cost to give the completely undeserving more free **** in order to buy their votes? well since i am a lifelong underachiever that will never own or accomplish anything in life with my poverty level income that is for those "rich people" to pay!"

total ***** losers and every reason this country has been declining for decades.


clinton will beat sanders, the democrat parties own machinations of corrupt ***** will ensure that

as for me trump is the only candidate with potential to improve the country. beyond that i really do not care who wins, will be the same **** as usual. the natural progression throughout all of history for every society has been to work toward achieving prosperity which once realized provides the comfortable completely detached from reality lifestyle that breeds liberals, who then slowly infect the population until that society becomes sick and weak with self destructive ideas. from there the host is either destroyed or reverts back to a period of "hard times" that purges liberalism for another few generations until the cycle repeats itself.


Sincerely I would be ok with Trump if he wasn't pushing some ideas that I consider to be fundamentally evil and against human rights; pro-life, anti-gay rights, xenophobia, religion. The last point is debatable but I've always be surprised with the amount of Christianity ***** in a government that consider itself secular. The last point is the reason why I simply cannot stand Cruz; creating a Christian State to defeat the Islamic States? Give me a break, they are almost as bad as each other. I apologize if I offend anyone, my point is not to say that all christians and muslism are evil, my point is saying that christian and muslim values are.
What scares me about Trump is the fact that he doesn't seem to be entirely sure about his program. When he is asked a question he always beats around the bush almost as if he is trying to be as vague as possible.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Dallane » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:55 pm

Argentis wrote:What scares me about Trump is the fact that he doesn't seem to be entirely sure about his program. When he is asked a question he always beats around the bush almost as if he is trying to be as vague as possible.


All politicians do that here.

Some like Hilary will do/say something on film and later straight up deny it.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Argentis » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:14 pm

Dallane wrote:
Argentis wrote:What scares me about Trump is the fact that he doesn't seem to be entirely sure about his program. When he is asked a question he always beats around the bush almost as if he is trying to be as vague as possible.


All politicians do that here.

Some like Hilary will do/say something on film and later straight up deny it.


That's true but Trump seems to do it more often.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby toddesloan » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:09 pm

Sanders vs Trump would be a decent throw down. If Sanders were younger he might have a decent shot. Hell man, lets be honest, he is just too old, and looks/acts bat sh$t crazy at times. Course so does Trump...lol

Now, if Hillary could get Oprah Winfrey to be her running mate, VP candidate, THAT WOULD BE GG!!!!!!! LOLOL
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Argentis » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:36 pm

toddesloan wrote:Sanders vs Trump would be a decent throw down. If Sanders were younger he might have a decent shot. Hell man, lets be honest, he is just too old, and looks/acts bat sh$t crazy at times. Course so does Trump...lol

Now, if Hillary could get Oprah Winfrey to be her running mate, VP candidate, THAT WOULD BE GG!!!!!!! LOLOL


What if Oprah becomes Trump's running mate? ¦]
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Lazun123 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:44 am

Im a Sanders supporter, if he runs for an independent party I will vote for him. He has said in the past he wont do that though, and at the current stage of the game it looks bad for him.

So, as a Californian, most people I know are sanders, Clinton trump in that order.

But as if the sanders supports, its Bernie or bust or Bernie or trump.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Lazun123 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:45 am

Argentis wrote:
Lazun123 wrote:Well that is pretty cool! I went to the emergency room, and got 1 IB pro-fain, lol i was slapped with a 1000 dollar pill. 30mins and 1000 bucks for one pill......


Went into the emergency to get 24 stitches as a teen when I got a cutting accident (windows). Nerve cut, artery touched, tendon half-cut. Can't remember how long the surgery was, probably not very long. In total my parents must have paid something like 400 dollars top (and they are upper middle class) mostly in over the counter medicine, dermatologist to help the scar heal better and post-op visits.


Yup that sounds pretty good, yet America believes as the #1 world economy, it cant achieve that.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Lazun123 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:03 am

Darwoth wrote:as i stated when trump first announced his run for the nomination he will be the next president and there has been absolutely nothing in the six or so months since then that has dissuaded that view, the only chance that he will not handily win the election is if he gets torpedoed by his own party (which has been trying everything they can to nuke him since the beginning) that are butthurt because after three decades of republicans acting like democrats their entire world has been turned upside down on account of someone with simply a basic grasp on conservatism coming along.

trump is the only conservative that will win the election, kasich is a ***** that absolutely nobody i know has anything good to say about, cruz is the only real alternative to trump that is palatable to republican voters and he will not win the election as trump is the only one with the platform to mobilize the silent majority of americans who are long tired of everything the left has been behind, cruz does not.

the republicans will either nominate trump or destroy their party when they ***** him over at the convention and lose millions of republicans to the libertarian party, there will be enough disenfranchised that will simply stay home that the democrat nominee will win by default is trump is not the candidate which is how obama bin laden got elected in the first place.

additionally this election is not about what "trump will get done" it is about being unafraid to bring up issues that the ******* have been tip toeing around for 30 years and ignoring for political expedience along with putting a stopleak into the liberals bleeding the country to death(including the liberals that pretend to be republicans, of which there are many), when i turn on the tv it is disgusting beyond words to see just how god awful stupid the mid 20s crowd in this country are

"well hey man i kinda like sanders, i know nothing about politics, the issues, economics or a god damn thing about anything for that matter, but the communist that flies in direct opposition to every american value the country is founded on sugar coated his ***** counting on me to be to dumb to know anything and said he will give me free **** in the form of low quality healthcare and a dime a dozen degree at a liberal arts college that isn't worth the paper it is printed on, but hey at least i did not have to pay for the four years of sanctioned brainwashing that will be make me a more manageable slave like your average european. and i mean the trillions of dollars of extra taxes it will cost to give the completely undeserving more free **** in order to buy their votes? well since i am a lifelong underachiever that will never own or accomplish anything in life with my poverty level income that is for those "rich people" to pay!"

total ***** losers and every reason this country has been declining for decades.


clinton will beat sanders, the democrat parties own machinations of corrupt ***** will ensure that

as for me trump is the only candidate with potential to improve the country. beyond that i really do not care who wins, will be the same **** as usual. the natural progression throughout all of history for every society has been to work toward achieving prosperity which once realized provides the comfortable completely detached from reality lifestyle that breeds liberals, who then slowly infect the population until that society becomes sick and weak with self destructive ideas. from there the host is either destroyed or reverts back to a period of "hard times" that purges liberalism for another few generations until the cycle repeats itself.


You're a smart guy man, don't buy into the propaganda. I follow the stuff religiously, and Sanders has a squeaky clean record, and his main agenda was to overcome citizens united. Im sure you can agree that nothing in this country can change until we get somebody(sanders maybe trump) to overturn it and get money out of politics. He has integrity to do so.

I personally don't care as much about the other issues, but we as citizens need our country back. Look at the positive, despite what ever agenda he pushes, he has galvanized a generation who had given up on our democracy to start caring.

Disagree all you want, that's perfect, people died so we could, But at the end of the day, the nation needs to speak and react in its majority's interest..
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Argentis » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:01 pm

Ahahah you think you live in a democracy. That's cute.
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