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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Claeyt » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:03 am

Not only will Trump probably not win the Republican Nomination outright (he needs 58% of the remaining delegates and is not polling enough to hit a +50% majority of Delegates) it is absolutely impossible for him to beat Clinton or Sanders in the general election based off of every poll anywhere. He's polling worse than any other presidential candidate in over 30 years. He'll lose at something around 60%-40% if he's lucky and the Democrats will take back the Senate at least. They're currently leading in the polls in all 7 contested Senate races lost in off year elections in 2010 but from states Obama carried in 2012.

I highly doubt Trump will even get the delegate votes to win the nomination. Currently he's losing 40% to 60% in non-official polling of pledged delegates for their vote on a second ballot at the Republican Convention and that's from States Trump won in the South who have already held their state Republican conventions. Personally I think once Ted Cruz's name comes out of the sealed documents from the DC madame case next month, it'll be Kasich for the republican nomination.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby saltmummy » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:16 am

I was trying to ignore the radio in the car on the way to do some important business. As I was not the driver, I had no control of the radio, but thems the rules. Anyways, I was trying to ignore the radio when suddenly a man calls in to the political talk radio show that was on and states, basically, "I am a democrat and I don't like Trump, but I will still vote for for him, and I'll tell you why." at that point the shows host cuts the man off saying, "sorry, hold on a minute, we have to go to a break, but hold on, I want to hear your reasoning." It caught my attention, and so I asked "If he doesn't support Trump, why would you vote for him?" My stepfather then explained his conspiracy theory to me. Basically, as he claims, the Democrats will vote for Trump because they believe he would be the weakest candidate against Hillary Clinton, and the republican side would rather have (in his words) a traitor for president than someone as ridiculous as Donald "baby fingers" Trump.

Personally, I really have no idea who to support in this election. The slate of candidates if gonna be **** however this turns out.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Argentis » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:18 am

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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Judaism » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:19 am

Claeyt wrote:(he needs 58% of the remaining delegates and is not polling enough to hit a +50% majority of Delegates)


He only needs 53,4% (390/730).
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Claeyt » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:17 am

Judaism wrote:
Claeyt wrote:(he needs 58% of the remaining delegates and is not polling enough to hit a +50% majority of Delegates)


He only needs 53,4% (390/730).

He needs 1237 to win, he has 845 after New York, he needs 392 to get to 1237, there are 638 left, that means he needs 61% of the rest of the delegates from the States. The chart is a day behind.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html

I believe he won 1 or 2 of those left over delegates from NY and that's why it's not 58% yet. They were reporting 58% this morning. He's not going to reach it. He's only up by like 6% in California and he's not leading in a majority of the congressional districts there so he probably will only get around half of them.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Argentis » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:26 am

Claeyt wrote:
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Claeyt wrote:(he needs 58% of the remaining delegates and is not polling enough to hit a +50% majority of Delegates)


He only needs 53,4% (390/730).

He needs 1237 to win, he has 845 after New York, he needs 392 to get to 1237, there are 638 left, that means he needs 61% of the rest of the delegates from the States. The chart is a day behind.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html

I believe he won 1 or 2 of those left over delegates from NY and that's why it's not 58%. They were reporting 58% this morning. He's not going to reach it. He's only up by like 6% in California and he's not leading in a majority of the congressional districts there so he probably will only get around half of them.


Who are Californian republicans more in favor then? Cruz? Please don't say Cruz.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Claeyt » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:54 am

Argentis wrote:Who are Californian republicans more in favor then? Cruz? Please don't say Cruz.

They're not more in favor of anybody. Recent polls I've seen has it 36% Trump, 30% Cruz and like 20% Kasich. The point is that Trump is not running away with it by any means. More than that California gives out it's delegates based on how many Congressional districts you win and Cruz is winning more of them. Right now they're predicting Cruz and Trump both coming out of it with a near equal amount. Some of the other Western states like New Mexico are close also.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby gustavohvg » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:09 am

Here in Brazil we have a president in the process of impeachment calling a lot of people betrayers and "evil".

Everything is so much more melodramatic in the third world... I do love here.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Wandering » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:40 am

I don't know why Trump opted to go with the Republican Party vs 3rd party ticket. As much hate as there is on him from the Right, he might as well be 3rd party.

Republicans are consistently shooting themselves dragging out the nomination process. It's bad enough fighting Democrats after, but the months competing for the nomination you have your own party eating away at you as well. A Contested Election is death in November for Republicans. End of Story. They should wise up- and quit fueling Democrat attack adds trying to KO each other.

I don't care for Sanders but it's refreshing to have Democrats in contention... every time Clinton opens her mouth to fend off Sanders- it's ammunition later down the road for the general election.

The 'Establishment' faction hates Trump. They hate him because successful businessmen know to make deals and when to cut losses. Usually they know how to hire competent folks vs purely political appointees. (Which is one reason I like him. I'm sure I'll hate some of his decisions if he makes it to the WH, but at least government might actually function as it's supposed too.)

That said, if I thought putting another Clinton in the WH would eviscerate the republican Establishment forever... I would be tempted. They are so out of touch with Reality. They are living in the past- desperately hoping to hold onto the illusion of their power. They need to go.

I don't make decisions based on polls. It's all piss in the wind until November.
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Re: Looks like Trump will win.

Postby Darwoth » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:20 am

as i stated when trump first announced his run for the nomination he will be the next president and there has been absolutely nothing in the six or so months since then that has dissuaded that view, the only chance that he will not handily win the election is if he gets torpedoed by his own party (which has been trying everything they can to nuke him since the beginning) that are butthurt because after three decades of republicans acting like democrats their entire world has been turned upside down on account of someone with simply a basic grasp on conservatism coming along.

trump is the only conservative that will win the election, kasich is a ***** that absolutely nobody i know has anything good to say about, cruz is the only real alternative to trump that is palatable to republican voters and he will not win the election as trump is the only one with the platform to mobilize the silent majority of americans who are long tired of everything the left has been behind, cruz does not.

the republicans will either nominate trump or destroy their party when they ***** him over at the convention and lose millions of republicans to the libertarian party, there will be enough disenfranchised that will simply stay home that the democrat nominee will win by default is trump is not the candidate which is how obama bin laden got elected in the first place.

additionally this election is not about what "trump will get done" it is about being unafraid to bring up issues that the ******* have been tip toeing around for 30 years and ignoring for political expedience along with putting a stopleak into the liberals bleeding the country to death(including the liberals that pretend to be republicans, of which there are many), when i turn on the tv it is disgusting beyond words to see just how god awful stupid the mid 20s crowd in this country are

"well hey man i kinda like sanders, i know nothing about politics, the issues, economics or a god damn thing about anything for that matter, but the communist that flies in direct opposition to every american value the country is founded on sugar coated his ***** counting on me to be to dumb to know anything and said he will give me free **** in the form of low quality healthcare and a dime a dozen degree at a liberal arts college that isn't worth the paper it is printed on, but hey at least i did not have to pay for the four years of sanctioned brainwashing that will be make me a more manageable slave like your average european. and i mean the trillions of dollars of extra taxes it will cost to give the completely undeserving more free **** in order to buy their votes? well since i am a lifelong underachiever that will never own or accomplish anything in life with my poverty level income that is for those "rich people" to pay!"

total ***** losers and every reason this country has been declining for decades.


clinton will beat sanders, the democrat parties own machinations of corrupt ***** will ensure that

as for me trump is the only candidate with potential to improve the country. beyond that i really do not care who wins, will be the same **** as usual. the natural progression throughout all of history for every society has been to work toward achieving prosperity which once realized provides the comfortable completely detached from reality lifestyle that breeds liberals, who then slowly infect the population until that society becomes sick and weak with self destructive ideas. from there the host is either destroyed or reverts back to a period of "hard times" that purges liberalism for another few generations until the cycle repeats itself.
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