Salem V1.2 Exploring the Bowels

[Heffernan]

someone said Flora & Faula increases the weight of the fish?

[Vernon]

also does the % of the hooks matter for fishing ??
same qestion for whale, do you loose your canoe once ur inside it ?

[JohnCarver]

someone said Flora & Faula increases the weight of the fish?

Nope. The weight of the fish is dependent on how long he has lived in the ocean before being caught.

also does the % of the hooks matter for fishing ??

Hook purity only matters in that it should transition to fish purity.

[Heffernan]

someone said Flora & Faula increases the weight of the fish?

Nope. The weight of the fish is dependent on how long he has lived in the ocean before being caught.

also does the % of the hooks matter for fishing ??

Hook purity only matters in that it should transition to fish purity.

i wonder what measures "being alive" i fished at my personal pond and got low fish guess it started to count from the start of the patch.

[JohnCarver]

Existing fish were given randomized weight, although, they will grow bigger from here. For this reason the leaderboard should be an ever growing thing as there is ALWAYS a bigger fish out there somewhere.

[Kozzy68]

thanks for patch. I like all the changes they seems as good balance changes but ...
way changes got applied in the middle of the live world is probably quite unfair for certain players and benefits anothers. I hate when game rules changes this way in the middle of the play. I literaly find it iritating.

like whats up with the mining ? .... I hear click click click sound and some your mining bonus is ... . I see it mentioned in the release notes but it looks like it cost now like about 4x more energy to mine a block. I find it quite unfair for new players to change it like this on world map that is live so long. Old players dug tiers giantic mines 5 levels deep practicaly for free and now its quite a chore.


Im ok and when MMO game sort of slowly inflates values of some old items or stikills by introducing new ones but this is not the case.
Its like stating in the middle of the chess game that pawns can now move 3 sqares ... and if somone object well we got universal reply "suck it up dude or dont play if you dont like it or there is no other way."

This is a very very very fair sentiment. Unfortunately, it is something that the Salemites will need to find some way to get over. In a low-budget MMO we just cannot halt progress, improvements, or general gameplay balance to create some feeling of 'fairness' at all times when it comes to who when and how players were involved in the game. Certainly we make sure to not institute massive sweeping changes where 'legacy' players are given some massive advantage over the new population. And to be fair I dont' think that larger mine levels farther down is some kind of sweeping advantage. I mean heck is phlegm food REALLY a bottle neck for most sophisticated players on lower levels of mines? I would think not.

The alternative to us pushing these changes on an established server is to either abandon providence (and whatever the permanent server is) each time we push games that tilt the 'fairness' or to simply hope our player base trusts our judgement enough on these issues that we will not institute something we think unfavorably rewards the veterans to the point where fresh blood cannot compete. If anything, expeditions allowing for mechanics of faster character gain (which Darwoth seems to have figured out) is a direct benefit to fresh blood getting into Salem on an expedition against those vets who had to earn it on providence the 'hard way'.

My 2 cents.

Thank you for improving the game again

Your welcome. Thanks for the kind words. It really does bring validation to our efforts when players express enjoyment in our labors.

According to system chat, nothing was gained when I learned it.

It should be required to apply drugs and create other types of drugs. Drugs are not easily unlocked in a crafting menu though and players must figure out how to make them.

I mined one boulder extremely close to the ladder (not that location matters, but it's one less thing to wonder about) wearing a facsimile of a suit readily attainable by a new miner.

112 Mining
38 Productivity

Level 1: One boulder costs 7.6 Phlegm
Level 2: One boulder costs 13.2 Phlegm
Level 3: One boulder costs 22.7 Phlegm
Level 4: One boulder costs 30.2 Phlegm
Level 5: One boulder costs 37.8 Phlegm
Level 6: One boulder costs 47.3 Phlegm
Level 7: One boulder costs 52.9 Phlegm

And yeah, yeah, I know you should have a better suit by the time to get to level 7, but this is just for illustration of a point.

I'm certainly open to discussion on the subject. But this indeed really doesn't seem all that bad.

I like that mining change scaling and completly and understand situation of the devs that you cant reset world or make more servers with such small game but ... still I find it itching my brain to have it on now that I have just started with mining. I should have taken that 6 level giatic abandon mine I found last week but now its beeing taken by someone else. I was like nah its not so hard to dig and benefit does not seem to be so great. And I dont think that 2nd level takes only 13 Ph. When I did try mine on 2nd level took me like 20 and is quite big diff. I hope some people wont start breaking to every newbish claim with a mine now just to check it id by any chance its not good mine. It might be now worth even town bell to buy off the claims. I sill dont understand what is exactly diff between ore mined at 1st level and ore mined at 7 level 1000 blocks away. So far it does not seems as huge diff and as a noob I still get 1% pure ore vs maybe like 3% in level 5 far away so skill probably matters here quite lot. I dont get how people get those 60% pure knife blades however.

[Heffernan]

btw. how about a fish contest?

oh and how about making the old Fishmaster 1600 unlimited wear :p

[JohnCarver]

btw. how about a fish contest?

You have a fish leaderboard.

[Heffernan]

btw. how about a fish contest?

You have a fish leaderboard.

any way readding the fishmaster 1600 or maing it unlimited wear?

also is there pvp inside the fish?

[JohnCarver]

How do you plan to get inside a fish?

And the Fishermaster 2600 is already obtainable in game.