Too many lean-tos

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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby jakhollin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:16 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:You left something out:

TotalyMeow wrote: :lol:


No, fun idea, but totally unworkable. I won't be suggesting it.

Though making beds homesteadable is something we were thinking of doing.



But what would happen if someone destroys the bed while you are logged out. The person who owns the claim instantly loses the ability to fast travel back to their base when they log on and is left naked at providence. I would rather suggest houses being tied to claims and homesteadable. So a house can be set as homestead when it a rooster beside the door is clicked. if the house is destroyed or burned down the persons homestead gets defaulted back to the homestead stone. For crime purposes a person should be able to see if the claim is active by being able to see the rooster in different forms. If the rooster is sitting the person is offline if the rooster is just standing there is a free slot and if the rooster is crowing the person is online. If a thief wants to rob the homestead they only have to L3WT the rooster.
hovel would have one rooster by the door
farmers house would have 2 by the door
town house would have 3 by the door
brick town house would have 5 by the door
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby HolyLight » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:22 pm

Your suggestion would never get implimented due to the following condition,

Too complicated to impliment/code.

Nothing else.
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby jakhollin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:24 pm

HolyLight wrote:Your suggestion would never get implimented due to the following condition,

Too complicated to impliment/code.

Nothing else.



Oh you have seen the source code?
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby TotalyMeow » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:03 pm

HolyLight wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Though making beds homesteadable is something we were thinking of doing.


*Fun fact*
This was an idea i suggested almost 3 years ago.


Well, don't say we never listened to your ideas. :lol:

jakhollin wrote:But what would happen if someone destroys the bed while you are logged out. The person who owns the claim instantly loses the ability to fast travel back to their base when they log on and is left naked at providence.


This is already true of leantos. I see no reason to change it for beds, assuming they do become homesteads.
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby jakhollin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:46 pm

The reason I say change it for beds on a claim because pClaims (on providence) cannot be destroyed so using them as the homestead is the most proper way making sure someone does not kick you off your own land.
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby HolyLight » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:52 pm

jakhollin wrote:The reason I say change it for beds on a claim because pClaims (on providence) cannot be destroyed so using them as the homestead is the most proper way making sure someone does not kick you off your own land.


The only way they could force you off of your homeland is if they removed the PCLaim.

If they destroyed the bed you were in, You would be dead anyways, as the devs want to impliment a system that if the bed is destroyed with a sleeper inside they die.

The Sandman skill required please to do this hedious crime.

Otherwise, if you log out on your land, you can always log back in on your land. If your HS is a bed, and you log out in providence with a bed as a HS, and it is removed then more fool you.
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby jakhollin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:33 pm

HolyLight wrote:
jakhollin wrote:The reason I say change it for beds on a claim because pClaims (on providence) cannot be destroyed so using them as the homestead is the most proper way making sure someone does not kick you off your own land.


The only way they could force you off of your homeland is if they removed the PCLaim.

If they destroyed the bed you were in, You would be dead anyways, as the devs want to impliment a system that if the bed is destroyed with a sleeper inside they die.

The Sandman skill required please to do this hedious crime.

Otherwise, if you log out on your land, you can always log back in on your land. If your HS is a bed, and you log out in providence with a bed as a HS, and it is removed then more fool you.


Currently if a bed is destroyed you will still spawn at that location unless someone places an item on it. The thing I am worried about is people destroying your bed as your homestead while it is in your house on your claim and you respawning with no default homestead in town. Having to run back to your pclaim. I know I can make my way back to my claim but some of my alts I do not know how to get back to their pClaim as I have not done the walk from providence to that claim yet. That has me worried just a bit. As for killing someone when they sleep that will end this game completely if you can be murdered in your sleep.
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby TotalyMeow » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:08 pm

HolyLight wrote:If they destroyed the bed you were in, You would be dead anyways, as the devs want to impliment a system that if the bed is destroyed with a sleeper inside they die.


No, it would have to be a murder, not destruction of the bed. And we haven't actually implemented that, if we do at all.

jakhollin wrote:Currently if a bed is destroyed you will still spawn at that location unless someone places an item on it. The thing I am worried about is people destroying your bed as your homestead while it is in your house on your claim and you respawning with no default homestead in town. Having to run back to your pclaim. I know I can make my way back to my claim but some of my alts I do not know how to get back to their pClaim as I have not done the walk from providence to that claim yet. That has me worried just a bit. As for killing someone when they sleep that will end this game completely if you can be murdered in your sleep.


Currently if your leanto is destroyed and you logged out in town, you have to walk all they way back. It has been that way for awhile, so I don't see what your point is. Don't log out in town; always log out in or near your claim. If you're worried about the item placement thing, well... maybe that is a good argument to not make bed homesteadable. Or we'll have to change some login mechanics before we do it.
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby jakhollin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:17 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:Currently if your leanto is destroyed and you logged out in town, you have to walk all they way back. It has been that way for awhile, so I don't see what your point is. Don't log out in town; always log out in or near your claim. If you're worried about the item placement thing, well... maybe that is a good argument to not make bed homesteadable. Or we'll have to change some login mechanics before we do it.



I knew of the leanto being that issue. But that is kind of what I am complaining about and agreeing with this idea thread on. It would be nice to have the ability to move your secured homestead to different locations on a claim such as the house or bed while still having the benefit of having a homestead that cannot be easily destroyed.

For example if I made my pClaim and expanded only north and west from the stone. All of my defenses are going to be away from my pClaim . This means defensively using my pClaim as my homestead makes it easy for a thief to just break through and rob the homestead. So after making that fatal design issue error the other option a person has is to move their homestead to a lento on claim that is towards the center and better defended. But if the thief decides to also destroy the leanto the player is left without a homestead and has to walk back to their base. If houses were made to be able to use as a homestead it would be much harder for a person to destroy them and fair if they are destroyed. Even for raiding purposes a person who is raiding a base continuously would know to just knock out all leantos to even prevent other players from showing up to defend.
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Re: Too many lean-tos

Postby ToorimaKun » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:17 am

i would say maybe having multible mailboxes would be good... but no need for it to show if some one is online/offline or any of that crap.
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