Insanity!

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Re: Insanity!

Postby Blood » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:32 am

For those of us that dont play with the sound on all the time would it be possible to have our characters say in area chat what the voices whispering say to them, like they are truly going insane talking to themselves.
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Re: Insanity!

Postby reeper_aut » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:43 am

JohnCarver wrote:Mini Update #6
*Players now receive less tobacco leaves from a field.
*Shredded Tobacco recipe now yield 3 shredded tobacco stacks
*The amount of leaves required to make shredded tobacco has been reduced.


for shredded tobacco it says 12 dry leaves and 1 stack output. is that correct?
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Dyadynok » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:08 pm

Claeyt wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:What madness did you start at?

And why not just go hit the hookah to at least get to 1?

It's actually pretty hard for even mid level players, much less noobs to get to the Hookah's with the affluence requirements. It's still 250 to get into the club right? If Tobacco is really only a chance to reduce then that might really be not enough for players to get back to 0.


You need only 225 Affluence (5 Sterling geode)
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Re: Insanity!

Postby ste1nar » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:07 pm

JohnCarver wrote:*Two New Psychotic Episodes have been added.

While mining I just got a 'questionably effective pickaxe" which replaced my regular pickaxe. Thanks your highness!
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Re: Insanity!

Postby ste1nar » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:08 pm

So, I played about a week before the insanity patch came. I don't know how but I've had madness level 4 since. I made a trumpet and spammed some music and realized I had wasted 200k inspiration and then remembered that it doesn't even lower madness. Since then I've checked the player stalls several times a day for tobacco without finding any and decided to grow my own. Hunted indian feathers and hides to throw at the vendors. Finally got 500s to buy the seeds but when I tried to plant them I remembered I needed the tobacco planting skill. Okay, got to raise stocks & cultivars 6000 points. That took a while and of course I had to make a lot of glass to make the refresher, which during the process produced dozens of precious rings, which I have dumped in barrels in the providence.
Termites, fetishes, ravenous sparks, topless parties, I feel like everything has happened to me.
Today while waiting for my precious tobacco to grow, my precious pickaxe was ruined. I thought that if I was to continue to mine, I would lose so many pickaxes that any price to get rid of this madness would be acceptable. Went to providence and browsed the player stalls without finding any tobacco again. Checked the white stall and saw it was selling golden tobacco for 250s. I decided to give it a try. I lost one madness level for each tobacco and 250s spent and now... Finally..
I am not mad any more! This insanity is gone! Muahaha I am sane!

Not mad any more...
Not mad any more...
Not mad any more...


My overall impression is that as a new player, if you gain some madness levels it will be very hard to get rid of them. It was generally harmless enough but, with minipatch #6, madness is starting to become serious.
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Asmoday369 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:22 pm

So, after *playing* before and after the patch for a while, I wanted to give some feedback -- mainly because this patch must have been a lot of work and there is a lot of negativity in this thread about it...

As a relatively new-ish player, I like it. :-)

The whispers are well done on a sound-level, and I love the creative phrases. I hadn't even looked at the forum before the roll out, so when they first started happening, I had no idea what was going on. LOL, I play with headphones, so they scared the bejeeezus out of me. AFTER reading about the patch, I realised my insanity was going up because I was wearing the Wicked mask thingr. LOL, I freaked out and dropped it in the river. (Now that I'm trying to raise Cloak and Dagger, I kinda wish I had kept it, but it is what it is...)

My favorite moments so far...

"I will consume them all", literally happened right before I clicked on the fork to enter gluttony mode. Awesome.

"I think I left a gate open." I had, in fact, left a gate open. And, someone destroyed one of my drying racks while I was gone. (I think this was partially to be a helpful poke on the shoulder, because they didn't take anything...I hadn't laid down a claim yet, but had built walls. Also, to the person who damaged my stone walls just to do it -- I hope you stub your toe).

I will not, in fact, be drinking the milk of lime. Just FYI. :-P

To those who are crying...it's...stop being like that. I actually have a few levels of insanity. Studying inspirationals, cooking, sleeping, and whittling as part of normal play is keeping my level fixed in place. I haven't really had to do anything, and I marathon-play. I mean, I picked flowers ONCE, to play with the effect...then threw them in the compost bin. Overall, it helps with the alt-bot issue and adds a nifty aspect to the game. Honestly, I'm "stuck" in that it will take me a while to get the silver to buy a pipe and some tobacco, but you don't hear me whining. Generally, its just been fun. I suppose the only people who would have a problem with it are those who like to run around and kill en-masse. But, one bard playing your psycho death-music and you're fine. Also, I hope you rot in hell, you ignorant savages. :-)

So, I played once a looong time ago, and came back recently. I LOVE what you guys have done. The game is way more fun now.

This ALL must have been a LOT of hard work over the years. And, its not pay-to-play? To John and all the Devs: Thanks!!!

The music and sound abience is really well done. That doesn't get said enough.

Only negative thing I have to say? I'm a builder player. I play this because I like building a claim, and making it "pretty". The only downside is defense. Keep in mind, I'm still "new" and don't fully understand how this works, but I feel like I have to build a crap ton of torch-posts/braziers to keep raiders at bay (and even then, not out, from what I'm reading, it seems like there is no such thing as an impenetrable claim). All I can hope is to eventually make it enough of a pain in the butt for them that with what they can see, they decide I'm not worth the trouble. But, they'll probably do it anyway. Which, I only CARE because it takes up a lot of space and makes my claim "ugly". But, that's me being nit-picky.

Unlike others, I like the permadeath. It makes me give a crap. Higher emotional investment, or however you want to put it.

Otherwise, I'd like to be social. Except, so many players are hostile. I get molested almost every time I go to Providence. Some witch curse or larceny. LOL. NOT a complaint, just saying. So, I get into town, sell my stuff, and get the hell out. Because of permadeath, I don't even talk to people. It'll be my luck, I'll be chatting and laughing then BAM, clubbed over the head. Between the coughing and the blood-stains and skeletons....yeah, I'm in and out, mano. A newbie fart in the air-conditioning.

I'm an amateur coder myself, so a lot of times, people don't get the "back-end" of things. I see that a lot in the suggestions/complaints. Only positive suggestions I would make:

Perhaps more decorative items for the claims, that give positive effects? (I'd build them even if I didn't. And I know this wastes valuable claim space, but like I said, I'm a builder-player). Then again, I know making skins for these things is a lot of work...this could play into role-play too. A big cross makes witches wanna hit you up. A stone pentacle boosts witchcraft but makes the non-witch players mark you a target? A small, small fountain that speeds the rate of garden-pot growth? A bench or two that lower the cost of study when sat upon? I dunno, just throwing stuff out there.

And, maybe increase the house interior sizes a bit? You'll prolly tell me to build more houses if I want more floorspace, I get it. But with beds and what not, I just like doing interiors all fancy like.

Just my two cents.

Great work!
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Synnestry » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:24 pm

Sounds like noone touched your things at all really. Your drying frame decayed and so are your walls. Repair, rebuild them or claim the land to prevent decay. If you want more floor space in your house(s), build a bigger one.
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Asmoday369 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:28 pm

You know what, that makes sense -- I didn't have the ground claimed yet when the walls decayed, apparently. Thanks for the insight :-)

Also, I just read about the teddy bear. So chill, people, chill. There is a way out. LOL.
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Synnestry » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:31 pm

Asmoday369 wrote:You know what, that makes sense -- I didn't have the ground claimed yet when the walls decayed, apparently. Thanks for the insight :-)

Also, I just read about the teddy bear. So chill, people, chill. There is a way out. LOL.


Indeed! Just don't buy a teddy from someone as it could be cursed. Just buy the materials instead. :p
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Yes » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:49 pm

Dude... Check the king's stall, the seeds there are much cheaper...
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