PvP Insight/Heads UP

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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby JohnCarver » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:55 pm

pestilence123 wrote:Does this mean that they will stand in the world until the next server restart? As a result, we get hundreds of alts standing in Providence and blocking everything.


Good thing you have witches to clean up the mess.
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby AmmaBoss » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:56 pm

JohnCarver wrote:
pestilence123 wrote:Does this mean that they will stand in the world until the next server restart? As a result, we get hundreds of alts standing in Providence and blocking everything.


Good thing you have witches to clean up the mess.

is it possible for witches to do more 5 blood dmg ?
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby pestilence123 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:58 pm

JohnCarver wrote:
pestilence123 wrote:


Good thing you have witches to clean up the mess.

Yeah, cool. Kill 5 bile alt, and then a ranger kill your witch.
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby Claeyt » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:41 pm

JohnCarver wrote:
Claeyt wrote:
My main question is, again, for my mapper friends. What will happen if someone Pclaims over a lean to out in the world? Will that person be able to easily destroy it completely. Will the person with the destroyed lean to immediately lose everything on the ground and 'persist in the world' or will they have to log on first? The way Marp described it on the Vent was more that they would only lose everything if they LOGGED OFF with NO lean to, thus making them have to build a lean


They would have all their stuff thrown around the ground the minute the leanto is popped. I think the real question is why anybody would bother popping a leanto when they could just do the l3wt option on it and take all their stuff anyway.

Leaving a leanto, unguarded, in the wild, is putting your items at risk.

I never really got an answer to the second part here. If someone's lean to is destroyed under a Pclaim do they then log on to 'persist in the world'? Will they show up wherever to just be killed?
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby JohnCarver » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:52 pm

No. Killing a leanto does not log a character on.
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby Claeyt » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:55 pm

JohnCarver wrote:No. Killing a leanto does not log a character on.

What about L3wting the lean to, will they be able to see names like mem'd characters or claimstones?
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby JohnCarver » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:59 pm

Lewting a leanto shows ??? unless you know them.
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby Sinnerman » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:44 am

Claeyt wrote:You can't be killed by a 5 bile character. The new Trial by Combat mechanic is going to be a skill.


Yes, but this not requires 350 С&D.
You can work,sleep etc and 5 biles char can kill you when you are offline because that "skill" cost much cheaper then Cain & Abel.

I think it is a betrayal from the developers side. Salem has always been hardcore game for me with open world and PvP. If you want to be bad guy you must sit 24\7 so as not to be summoned. Raiding loses any sense because i can build alt leanto outside the waste claim and take away all my stuff within the next 24 hours until waste claim gets its act. At this point you will always lose more than get. That means - months of hard work to take biles and murder skill. Result - to be killed by the noob who had just come into play.
I was hoping that the patch will bring the time frame for the protection of the town. Say, 10 hours to defense the town, after that time waste claim will decay. If you have a team and you protect your town you will not to be destroyed. But the raiders get critical hits and not more touch you if you able to resist the allotted time of Defence.
Unfortunately instead we get a completely non-working system of raids and in this world there is no more space for bandits by that reason the game becomes tedious and boring.
If the player not interested the game, he will leave anyway and if player a peaceful farmer he can always logout to safe his char.

So if you want to stop the crimes then do two servers PvP an PvE. But do not spoil the game for different audience of players. Because this patch completely discourages to play in Salem not just for me.

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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby Claeyt » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:03 am

Sinnerman wrote:So if you want to stop the crimes then do two servers PvP an PvE. But do not spoil the game for different audience of players. Because this patch completely discourages to play in Salem not just for me.

Captain James

He's already saying the 'Expeditions' are going to be more PVP than the Providence server.
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Re: PvP Insight/Heads UP

Postby saffgee » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:07 am

Sorry, might have missed this - what about legacy scents ? will these disappear at patch drop ?
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