Root Vegetables

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Root Vegetables

Postby Etherdrifter » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:44 am

We're in the new world.

In the words of Rincewind "Can I have them mashed?"

We're missing our root veg!

Root Seed
T1 - Onions
T2 - Carrot, Beetroot
T3 - Potato

Effect On Bars -
1,3->4


Only problem-
This makes 4 raised by 2 crops instead of 1. Could be solved by adding in 3 more seed types. Either way, we need our root veg!
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:31 am

No, please don't combine them all into one field.
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby Potjeh » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:13 am

Combining potatoes and sweet potatoes into one crop would be pushing it, let alone potatoes and onions.
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby Procne » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:33 pm

Plant type 1 "beets" - Chenopodiaceae family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenopodiaceae):
Beetroot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetroot -> food
Chard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chard -> food
Sugar beet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_beet -> sugar, food
Spinach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinach -> food

Plant type 2 "taproots" - Apiaceae family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apiaceae
Carrot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot -> food
Parsley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsley -> food
Celery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celery -> food
Parsnip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsnip -> food

Planty type 3 ... uhm "bulb" plants? - Solanoideae family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanoideae
Potato http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato -> food, alcohol
Tomato http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato -> food
Eggplant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggplant -> food

Plant type 4 "maize" - different corn types http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_corn
Field corn -> food, oil
Sweet corn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_corn -> food, sugar
Flour corn -> food, flour
Popping corn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popcorn -> food

Plant type 5 "herbs" (leftovers without family :P ) Those are more suitable for planting pots I guess
Tobacco (Nocotiana) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotiana -> cigarettes
Chilli pepper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_pepper -> food
Mandrake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandrake_(plant) -> witchcraft
Deadly nightshade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_nightshade -> witchcraft, poisons


New cooking material - oil - made by pressing sunflowers or field corn in oil press (new building). Used for frying (popcorn!)

New food category - soups. Let's have a use for those cauldrons and new vegetables. Some examples:
Borscht http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borscht
Tomato soup http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato_soup
Kapusniak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapusniak
Clam chowder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clam_chowder
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:14 pm

Might want to review your choices here a bit. Nice research, but while related at the family level, they have very little to do with each other in some cases. All the other groups would share the same genus or would be a sub-specie.

As much as I'd like to see a wide variety of things for crafting, too much complexity adds just that without really increasing game play.
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby Procne » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:26 pm

Yeah, I've been thinking that as well, and that's why I thought it would be better to put some plants in the same group, even if they don't have that much in common, to avoid having 20 or more plant groups. Keep in mind that still there are no common plants like linen, beans, onion, coffee, pea, cucamber yet. So they would probably add even more goups.

The question is what would be better - to have 20 different groups of plants with 3-4 very similar subspecies, or 10 groups with 3-4 varied subspecies? In the end I think those subspecies don't have to have too much in common in real life, as long as they have common uses in the game. And most of those uses is food anyway :D
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby Etherdrifter » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:11 pm

Ehh..

I like the larger family idea. Save...

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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby Scipio » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:45 pm

Tomatos? I demand Pasta with tomato sauce, cheese and pepper bells as food, coming with the skill "Italian cuisine". :P
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby aragaer » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:32 am

Etherdrifter wrote:Ehh..

I like the larger family idea. Save...

No tea! We need our tea damn it!

Sorry, tea is used only since 18th century, we're in 17th.

Herbal teas maybe?
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Re: Root Vegetables

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:03 pm

aragaer wrote:Sorry, tea is used only since 18th century, we're in 17th.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe it was Marco Polo that first introduced tea to Europe well before the colonial period.
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