SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby lachlaan » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:22 pm

That's good to know, I think people automatically assumed that any inspirational would ditch purity and so there'd be a new way for humus to be produced. Happy to see that's not the case and my worms will continue to be useful :D
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby troubleis » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:32 pm

lachlaan wrote:That's good to know, I think people automatically assumed that any inspirational would ditch purity and so there'd be a new way for humus to be produced. Happy to see that's not the case and my worms will continue to be useful :D

I think it might be a case where your worm has a purity of 8% for composting reasons, but it's inspirational value is just the base 0% amount.
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby JohnCarver » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:34 pm

Yes. Its not the inspirational items won't have purity. It is more that the purity just won't effect study values.
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby lachlaan » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:46 pm

So just the modifier not affecting inspiration gain rather than no elemental composition at all, cool :) I'll think of more potential blurry topics to ask for enlightenment about later, I imagine it's hard to foresee everything that can go awry with missing info and whatnot.
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby Pildream » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:00 pm

nonsonogiucas wrote:
Pildream wrote:So I ask again, why would someone use bots and hacks ?


Because using bots actually scratches the same itch for a lot of people.
Part of the fun in "playing a game" comes from the act of exploiting the rules of a complex system for your own benefit / to reach your goal.
It follows that "using a bot" is the same as "playing the game", only in a different way.

That does not mean I approve of bots, but I blame the game mechanics for that instead.
People will use bots for every task that gives a return if performed repeatedly and brainlessly for a relatively long time, in other words "to grind".

Also think about this:
Technically speaking, in a video game where a computer program is supposed responsible for enforcing the rules, there is no cheating.
If you find you can do something that you were not intended to, that is only because of a design flaw (in respect to the "intended behavior") or a bug in the programming.
And being the client open you cannot even use the word "hacking".


What you say here really makes sense. But think about when it is about combat, if you have a way of entering a combat in better terms than the other player then you cheat.
Also for the grinding you mention, it is a long term cheating since you have a different ( easier ) way from others to improve your production and hence your stats. That's cheating again, right ?

Another thing is custom clients that do different stuff, I found one that works better than the vanilla because there was a guy or a team that shared his creation with the community, Why not do the same with bots then ? With the tolerance of the devs until a new way is found and embodied to the game.

the whole thing is about playing on equal terms, otherwise there are exploiters and victims, and to my understanding they are both loosers .
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby nonsonogiucas » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:20 pm

Pildream wrote:But think about when it is about combat


I was talking about botting.
It has nothing to do with combat.

If you are referring to "features" of a custom client that make combat easier than it is simple... use the custom client yourself.

And if the devs will feel like a feature available through the custom client shouldn't be accessible to players, they will simply take steps in order to prevent that behaviour server-side.
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby kingwint92 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:46 pm

What day will the patch take place?
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby Dallane » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:58 pm

nonsonogiucas wrote:
Pildream wrote:But think about when it is about combat


I was talking about botting.
It has nothing to do with combat.



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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby JohnCarver » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:04 pm

kingwint92 wrote:What day will the patch take place?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9899&start=110#p143801
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Re: SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

Postby lachlaan » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:09 pm

So how are the imaginary caps on proficiency levels looking with only null cyberinspirationals from the future, on the test server? :P That is to say, will a similar amount of next gen inspirationals , and similar amount of inspiration in general yield as much as it does now, efficiency wise?
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