SEPTEMBER Patch Warnings

[LOMS]

We most certainly have acquired the spectate mode and all of its wonderful glory. I'm certain some players will get away with it, just as I'm certain others won't. The question the botter needs to ask themselves is if a little bit of botting is worth losing everything.

JC, what about "fair" automatisation for some actions? I'm talking about functions like Ender's "Transfer all items like", or some kind of macro engine, allowing to record a short sequence of actions? Popular MMO's, like Lineage 2 or World of Warcraft, have macro engines in their clients, despite the fact they are fighting bots badly.

[JohnCarver]

There is either a human behind the computer, or there is not.

If you leave your computer to get a drink from your fridge, while leaving your macro/bot/automation running we reserve the right to ban you.

Be behind your computer when you are playing and you should be fine.

[Procne]

I tend to play without the sound and with closed chat. When I gather grass It may look like I'm botting.

Also, would it be fine if a person had a bot running in the background while doing something else on the PC and checking up from time to time?

There is no clear way to distinguish between a player and a bot, from server's side.

[LOMS]

There is either a human behind the computer, or there is not.

If you leave your computer to get a drink from your fridge, while leaving your macro/bot/automation running we reserve the right to ban you.

Be behind your computer when you are playing and you should be fine.

Following this logic, "if you watch your bot - everything will be fine". I think that's not the thing you've actually meant.

Let's imagine if someone has implemented shift-walking engine. It allows you to shift-click some points on the ground to make a route, which your character will follow, point after point. If you're carrying something, this may took a fair long time, so you can get a drink from the fridge, alt-tab to read the forums and even go take a poop. How do you determine whether it is legal or not? What will you do before you ban anyone?

P.S.: shift-clicking path building is popular in games, where you're controlling unit from "top-view" camera. It's also implemented in some H&H clients.

[JohnCarver]

I tend to play without the sound and with closed chat. When I gather grass It may look like I'm botting.
Also, would it be fine if a person had a bot running in the background while doing something else on the PC and checking up from time to time?
There is no clear way to distinguish between a player and a bot, from server's side.

Nice fairy tale. In that situation though, you would bump into our invisible spectator. You would then notice us appear, sound or not, and respond to communication. In the event you were running a bot, you would either magically stall out, or make methodical evasive action to the injected conditions. At which point, the bot is banned. There are plenty of other pretty easy and pretty simple ways to detect bots with 99% efficiency. The most sophisticated bots we have seen in Salem are really not that sophisticated at all. We will make sweeping announcements when and if its actually a problem. For now though, its simply not.

[Procne]

I feel like I will meet a lot of new friends when foraging. At least bring some grass with you

[Potjeh]

Talking about bots, John, what are planning to do with bots? Let they free or forbid them?

Accounts found botting are pemabanned.

So we are to use alt accounts for our bots?

[Brego]

There is either a human behind the computer, or there is not.

If you leave your computer to get a drink from your fridge, while leaving your macro/bot/automation running we reserve the right to ban you.

Be behind your computer when you are playing and you should be fine.

Following this logic, "if you watch your bot - everything will be fine". I think that's not the thing you've actually meant.

Let's imagine if someone has implemented shift-walking engine. It allows you to shift-click some points on the ground to make a route, which your character will follow, point after point. If you're carrying something, this may took a fair long time, so you can get a drink from the fridge, alt-tab to read the forums and even go take a poop. How do you determine whether it is legal or not? What will you do before you ban anyone?

P.S.: shift-clicking path building is popular in games, where you're controlling unit from "top-view" camera. It's also implemented in some H&H clients.

you such stupid person if you think bots are good in games.what is the sense of botting ?
games created for people to enjoy these

[Procne]

you such stupid person if you think bots are good in games.what is the sense of botting ?
games created for people to enjoy these

Why do you attack and kill people in Salem?

[Brego]

you such stupid person if you think bots are good in games.what is the sense of botting ?
games created for people to enjoy these

Why do you attack and kill people in Salem?

because i can enjoy this
why i called this person stupid .
because russians are using in any games bots.
they can't use own logic .that's why hole world cannot understand at the moment what they are trying to do .