So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

[loftar]

If all that someone has done to offend you is give their opinion, why does that give you the right to single them out and treat them poorly?

It probably doesn't, but however does that relate to the case at hand? :)

Before you try to argue that this is merely a snide remark, hasn't almost half this thread been spent arguing that it is not Claeyt's political opinions that make him a dunce (not that a case couldn't be made), but his general behavior and manners? Enough so, I might argue, that I could even call you out on insincerity for just trying to implicitly go back on that without so much as an attempt to explain why; but I won't, so please disregard that. I'm just saying, as a demonstration of just how invalid I consider your point to be.

you god damned cretin

You seem somewhat mad, by the way.

[Yasso]

Doesn't make moderation any less crappy.

You consider banning a high profile toxic poster for breaking the rules bad moderation? Derp derp.

Nah man not what i meant, was just speaking about moderation in general.

[Hose]

Where is my Dunce Cap

[Kaios]

It probably doesn't, but however does that relate to the case at hand?

You say he is considered a dunce because of his behaviour and manners, I say others consider him a dunce because of his opinions on certain subjects. Either way, I think both are relevant. What you say about his behaviour and manners doesn't make sense to me though because for the most part Claeyt is a fairly well articulated individual, he speaks with a moderate level of intelligence and he certainly doesn't call people names like, say for example, I have. Yet you aren't saying **** about my behaviour or manners.

You seem somewhat mad, by the way.

I am, you should see the PM I sent to TotalyMeow. Stop being a biased little prick and I won't have to be so aggressive towards you.

[Binks]

he speaks with a moderate level of intelligence

You're joking right? Like this is a ha ha moment right?

[loftar]

for the most part Claeyt is a fairly well articulated individual, he speaks with a moderate level of intelligence and he certainly doesn't call people names like, say for example, I have.

In that case, I can only conclude that you haven't actually tried arguing with him. I actually also thought that before I argued with him the first time and almost caught the Claegue.

Yet you aren't saying **** about my behaviour or manners.

Indeed. Even now, I consider your behavior and manners ways above Claeyt's.

I say others consider him a dunce because of his opinions on certain subjects.

That's not why I consider him a dunce, at least. It's not like I can actually speak for others, but I very much suspect that most people who have argued with Claeyt would agree. It's not like I haven't argued with many a socialist, progressive, liberal previously, and none of them are quite like Claeyt.

Stop being a biased little prick and I won't have to be so aggressive towards you.

Well, the thing is that I really don't care, so you might as well save your energy. :)

[Kaios]

In that case, I can only conclude that you haven't actually tried arguing with him. I actually also thought that before I argued with him the first time and almost caught the Claegue.

For once you have actually stated the truth.

You are correct, I have not tried. Would you like to know why? It is because I don't care about his posts, in fact, rarely do I ever read them. Perhaps you and the others who dislike his posting so much could try something similar? Might I refer you to Dallane's signature if you have such trouble refraining yourself from reading his posts or replying to them?

[loftar]

It is because I don't care about his posts, in fact, rarely do I ever read them.

Might I then ask why you defend them as being innocent, not even having read them? ^^

Perhaps you and the others who dislike his posting so much could try something similar?

I'm still having fun arguing with him, so I'll refrain. :)

Also, might I remind you that it was Claeyt himself who involved me in this thread by stating falsehoods about me?

For once you have actually stated the truth.

Could I bother you to point out some of the oh so many instances where I have not?

[Kaios]

Might I then ask why you defend them as being innocent? ^^

I do not defend any of his posts or his behaviour, however you may perceive it. The whole purpose of my argument(s) has always been regarding fair moderation and also the deliberate trolling of an individual player by the game's new developer with absolutely zero care in the world for the consequences of his actions or how anyone else may have felt about it. That is my issue, I could care less if the person I was defending was Claeyt or Yasso or Binks or even Douchebag Darwoth. It's the principle of the entire situation that I don't agree with, a gang of people ruthlessly teaming up against one person.

I'm still having fun arguing with him, so I'll refrain.

"This guy's posts suck but I love responding to them! I'm such a hypocrite!"

Could I bother you to point out some of the clearly many instances where I have not?

Nah, rather not "waste my energy."

[loftar]

The whole purpose of my argument(s) has always been regarding fair moderation and also the deliberate trolling of an individual player by the game's new developer

The point being that, if you don't read his posts and therefore don't know why he is being trolled, how can you claim that these actions are unfair?

It's the principle of the entire situation that I don't agree with, a gang of people ruthlessly teaming up against one person.

Certainly, I can see that. I have frequently questioned myself with regards to my interactions with Claeyt, whether it's really okay for me to bully the retarded kid on the block. Normally, I wouldn't do such a thing. But Claeyt really is continually bringing it upon himself, and I can't even consider it bullying.

I'm still having fun arguing with him, so I'll refrain. :)

"This guy's posts suck but I love responding to them! I'm such a hypocrite!"

Hi pot, meet kettle. ^^

Just because I speak this way about the concrete contents about Claeyt's posts, doesn't mean I can't enjoy the argument on other levels. There's nothing hypocritical about that. I'm enjoying this argument with you as well, just in case you thought I was sitting here stewing in anger. It's in a different way than that in which I enjoy the arguments with Claeyt, though; those are more like trying to figure out an enigma.