Siege of Celestis

[Darwoth]

what towns?

edit: ok i get it, your own towns. funny one =P

[Orcling]

Go home DarkNachT, you're drunk again.

Are you projecting?

[jesi]

so basically niceguy broke some stumps and got his entire town destroyed for the half dozenth time while the rest of you sat around also doing nothing but blaming it all on darchnacht

No that is not really it. (and, hey, Darwoth - how y'a doing? - from one grandparent to another). Basically what Cheena said is correct, though the bit about us being cowards is a hard pill to swallow. I, like a few other town members, was unable to participate in the defense this weekends. I know that sounds like a lame defense but Celestis is and was, other than Dark and Emil, mainly formed with casual players.

I was, however, flattered to be the first featured destroyed farmstead and I hope the dry boards and green cabbage helped to compensate you for your time. Thanks for not cutting my trees although I was a bit sorry PmP did not spot the homage to the original treaty terms, in the form of the two birch trees on either side of the inner gate. (At least my record remains intact in that I have never chopped down a tree that I did not plant myself. Chief would be proud.)

Anyway, Jesi is safe and will continue in one way or another. No need for a ragequit on my end.

[TruthTeller]

She is a 100% peacefull and neutral player, never attacked anyone or even talked bad about anyone, let alone about Tribe.

You can't play the client game and be neutral. You either for or against the tribe. Per definition anyone who doesn't sign the treaty or similar, are against the tribe. By signing/allying with the tribe you are on the side of the tribe.

The only way to be neutral is to not play the client game.

Forum game is enough

[jesi]

She is a 100% peacefull and neutral player, never attacked anyone or even talked bad about anyone, let alone about Tribe.

You can't play the client game and be neutral. You either for or against the tribe. Per definition anyone who doesn't sign the treaty or similar, are against the tribe. By signing/allying with the tribe you are on the side of the tribe.

The only way to be neutral is to not play the client game.

Forum game is enough

Okay. . . But you really don't know what you are talking about.
Kind'a sad that post. Maybe you should try again. And, yes. I know who you are/

[TruthTeller]

She is a 100% peacefull and neutral player, never attacked anyone or even talked bad about anyone, let alone about Tribe.

You can't play the client game and be neutral. You either for or against the tribe. Per definition anyone who doesn't sign the treaty or similar, are against the tribe. By signing/allying with the tribe you are on the side of the tribe.

The only way to be neutral is to not play the client game.

Forum game is enough

Okay. . . But you really don't know what you are talking about.
Kind'a sad that post. Maybe you should try again. And, yes. I know who you are/

It is not like it is a secret who I am. Which is specially funny since I am noone of relevance in the current ingame politics .

[Feone]

She is a 100% peacefull and neutral player, never attacked anyone or even talked bad about anyone, let alone about Tribe.

You can't play the client game and be neutral. You either for or against the tribe. Per definition anyone who doesn't sign the treaty or similar, are against the tribe. By signing/allying with the tribe you are on the side of the tribe.

The only way to be neutral is to not play the client game.

Forum game is enough

Ofcourse you can be neutral.

If you're far from any major faction, have proper defenses and don't get involved with politics nobody will bother raiding you.
Not worth the trouble, essentially.

[Mereni]

You can be neutral, if you don't want to declare for any major group. But unless you yourself are setting up a major group that can defend itself, you really can't be neutral forever. You either have to side with a major group so they can defend you or help you defend yourself, or you will be raided and destroyed.

[RuneNL]

You can be neutral, if you don't want to declare for any major group. But unless you yourself are setting up a major group that can defend itself, you really can't be neutral forever. You either have to side with a major group so they can defend you or help you defend yourself, or you will be raided and destroyed.

Because you can't be neutral as a group. Because as a group you pose a potential threat.

[TruthTeller]

You can be neutral, if you don't want to declare for any major group. But unless you yourself are setting up a major group that can defend itself, you really can't be neutral forever. You either have to side with a major group so they can defend you or help you defend yourself, or you will be raided and destroyed.

Why has the tribe changed their tune over the months I was gone from all four games? Back in the days, you did indeed demand people to sign treaty /ally with you or you would consider them to be hostile and thus not neutral.

Edit: To clarify, I consider neutrality to be multilateral property. If a faction declares war on you, you are not neutral anymore. To be neutral, a requirement (but not sufficient one) is that all parties have to be non-hostile against you.