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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:48 pm

Dallane wrote:
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JohnCarver wrote:You using the default client or having items that only work on the default client is not intended. However, we also determined that the hat works just fine with Kandarim client on all of our tests. So it is highly possible that your kandarim is not working for some other reason and you are trying to blame it on the hat.

The client works for all my other characters just fine. Tell me WTF I have to do to stop my game from crashing in Kand. Just stop trolling and tell me what to do. What specific example of my forum behavior are you pointing at over the last 2 weeks since you bought the game? Please post them here.


CUSTOM CLIENTS ARE NOT SUPPORTED IDIOT.

There is no trolling at all. Its just your inability to try and fix the problem yourself.


I understand that Custom Clients are not supported idiot. This is not about the custom clients. This is about an unequippable hat. I am only able to use the basic client with this character that I've worked months on.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Dallane » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:52 pm

Where did they say they were greifing you?

Seems you did this on your own. You have access to the character on the basic client but not the customer client....seems it is a client issue.

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby loftar » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:53 pm

Claeyt wrote:How do I use this while that's happening?

To be fair, I don't think it would be entirely game-breaking for you to use the default client while Kand investigates this.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Kaios » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:54 pm

JohnCarver wrote:As usual, I find your argument logical and quite possibly the correct course of action in a lot of arenas and settings. I believe we have been up-front from the get-go that it is not our intention to move Salem too far from its roots. Unique items given to players in-game is nothing new. SeaTribe dunking players in rivers causing them to lose all their gear, inspiration, and other goodies, was also been a favorite past-time on this server for the first few weeks. While we have no intention of making a habit of going out of our way to manipulate the game-world. We too crave tears. Claeyt went on a little rampage on several players on topics and posting habits that we found toxic to the community. We could have banned his character, or banned his forum account. Even now he slanders the game with untrue facts on websites and is trying to PM me with attempts of extortion that he is going to bring down the population of Salem with his bad press. Instead, I decided that it is precisely these kinds of interactions that make Salem unique. I know both myself and Meow tried to work with him to get the cap off, he instead chose to continue his hostile attitude, and quite frankly, I have little desire to stop this river of tears for somebody so refusing to learn from his mistake.

I know this won't sit well with you as you seem to have a need for logic and the path of least resistance to be pursued at all times. But in this case. We are finding this entire endeavor entertaining to let it continue its course.


As usual, I find your response to be hypocritical of past statements. If you're going to subject players to the rule that they have to deal with the consequences of not only their in-game actions but their forum actions as well, even if that means they are subject to bugs or other sorts of issues, then you should perhaps be willing to hold yourself to the same standard. If your actions directly caused him to anger and now he is venting that anger by means of sending out negative press to other potential players, that's unfortunately something you'll have to deal with and punishing him further or refusing to take any action at all doesn't make the situation any better.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:55 pm

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Kaios wrote:Nah, just as you don't appreciate words being put in your mouth, neither does one appreciate you giving more meaning to their actions than there really was. A competent developer doesn't just drop a newly created item out for anyone to grab (Although it's clear who it was intended for) and not explain anything to anyone about it knowing fully well that it could cause any kind of issue.

Even if you don't feel the need to explain anything to someone when you make them a test subject, the least you could do if you can't solve the issue is remove the unwilling participant from the test as they ask and put an end to the argument once and for all, considering it's a supposed "test."

Instead there's an allowance for a continuous barrage of insults and a complete run-around making no progress towards any sort of reasonable resolution.


As usual, I find your argument logical and quite possibly the correct course of action in a lot of arenas and settings. I believe we have been up-front from the get-go that it is not our intention to move Salem too far from its roots. Unique items given to players in-game is nothing new. SeaTribe dunking players in rivers causing them to lose all their gear, inspiration, and other goodies, was also been a favorite past-time on this server for the first few weeks. While we have no intention of making a habit of going out of our way to manipulate the game-world. We too crave tears. Claeyt went on a little rampage on several players on topics and posting habits that we found toxic to the community. We could have banned his character, or banned his forum account. Even now he slanders the game with untrue facts on websites and is trying to PM me with attempts of extortion that he is going to bring down the population of Salem with his bad press. Instead, I decided that it is precisely these kinds of interactions that make Salem unique. I know both myself and Meow tried to work with him to get the cap off, he instead chose to continue his hostile attitude, and quite frankly, I have little desire to stop this river of tears for somebody so refusing to learn from his mistake.

I know this won't sit well with you as you seem to have a need for logic and the path of least resistance to be pursued at all times. But in this case. We are finding this entire endeavor entertaining enough to let it continue and run its course. Which is ironically, completely up to Claeyt himself at this point.

You've given me the World's End thread in PM where I misunderstood what happened with the 'Pride' character.

I need this character to keep playing. He's my main merchant.

If you don't like my forum posting then just perma-ban me or ban me for whatever you want to make up. If I'm not doing anything against the forum's rules then edit out my posts in green.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Darwoth » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:58 pm

maybe you should turn off your hack program so the hat renders properly claeyt.

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby RobertoKarlos » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:02 am

Is so hard for you to use the default client till the custom client is fixed? Why do you ***** so much, no one force you to put that ***** hat, yet you are here posting and posting making devs lose their time.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby JohnCarver » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:07 am

Kaios wrote:
As usual, I find your response to be hypocritical of past statements. If you're going to subject players to the rule that they have to deal with the consequences of not only their in-game actions but their forum actions as well, even if that means they are subject to bugs or other sorts of issues, then you should perhaps be willing to hold yourself to the same standard. If your actions directly caused him to anger and now he is venting that anger by means of sending out negative press to other potential players, that's unfortunately something you'll have to deal with and punishing him further or refusing to take any action at all doesn't make the situation any better.


Ah, but I am not punishing him further. I have not actually punished him at all. I simply dropped a hat in Providence. And watched the ripples.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:07 am

RobertoKarlos wrote:Is so hard for you to use the default client till the custom client is fixed? Why do you ***** so much, no one force you to put that ***** hat, yet you are here posting and posting making devs lose their time.

Then they can remove the hat. We've moved past this being a third party client problem. The hat is not removable, the hat does not work with Kand's client and I am force to wear it while using the basic client. The character has to use the basic client. That's all been settled it's bugged while using Kand's client.

The question now is that the dev's are trolling me and griefing this character specifically forever and that the character is now unusable if I use Kand's client because of their wanting to see me suffer. It's beyond unprofessional and is pretty ***** bizarre for a game dev to single out a player for in-game punishment.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby loftar » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:08 am

Claeyt wrote:We've moved past this being a third party client problem.

Clearly we have not, seeing as how it works perfectly on the default client. If there is a problem at all, it is with the client, and not with the hat.
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