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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:59 pm

JohnCarver wrote:Your work is not ruined. The list is still there and you can still use it. Are you saying that if I put a pocket in the hat this matter will be resolved?

I also told you that there will be an NPC in the first patch that will remove it for you. Why are you not wanting to just wait until July 4th for this option?

You said the NPC would kill me as a sort of character deletion. How will the NPC remove it without killing me? Why the ***** would you put a pocket in a bugged hat, just dev the hat out for now. I'm crashing with it on. I can't just make a new Belethor and then describe the list to him because I keep crashing, so yes the work is ruined.

Why the ***** did you even give me this hat anyways? You keep talking about my posting in the World's End raid thread as the reason. Are you talking about my misunderstanding of who Pride was or about the racism derail that TotallyMeow clipped out? Why are you griefing me about that specific thread?
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby JohnCarver » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:10 pm

As requested several times now. Please provide me a crash report so I can see why you are crashing with it.

As for dodging the question about the pocket? So I take it this has nothing to do with the pocket and you are now formally retracted your request for a pocket in the hat?

As for your final question. You received the hat for being a notable member of the community. We intend to reward frequent and notable forum posters through in-game items more in the future. The fact you then placed it on your own head, sums up the item perfectly I think.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:23 pm

JohnCarver wrote:As requested several times now. Please provide me a crash report so I can see why you are crashing with it.

As for dodging the question about the pocket? So I take it this has nothing to do with the pocket and you are now formally retracted your request for a pocket in the hat?

As for your final question. You received the hat for being a notable member of the community. We intend to reward frequent and notable forum posters through in-game items more in the future. The fact you then placed it on your own head, sums up the item perfectly I think.

The game freezes. A bug report doesn't pop up like with the load reports. How do I find a crash report in the files?

No, I would love to have slots for the hat if you fix it but let me take it off and not crash with it on first. Right now I can't even use it. Let me put it on a vault alt or something so I don't have to keep crashing with my main merchant.

There was no way to tell what it was. All it said was Claeyt's Cap. Why wouldn't I put it on my head? How was I supposed to know it was a bugged griefing piece of clothing. All other clothing is non-permanent and doesn't destroy a character. You've said I should have asked you about it so that I could pass it on to Darwoth or something as a weapon but you logged off immediately.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby JohnCarver » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:30 pm

I waited online so you could ask me about it. You instead put it on your own head. I THEN facepalmed and logged off. Please make an effort to state the chronological series of events to some level of accuracy.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:49 pm

JohnCarver wrote:I waited online so you could ask me about it. You instead put it on your own head. I THEN facepalmed and logged off. Please make an effort to state the chronological series of events to some level of accuracy.

Why would I ask if it was a permanent griefer bugged hat or ask if it was a weapon of some kind for someone? What was I supposed to ask? It was a hat. I put it on. No other clothing in the game is permanent why would I think that this specific hat was. Also why is it bugged, if you wanted to just wipe the character you could have just done that. Why bug it? Is it bugged on purpose?

Also I wouldn't think that a dev would actually grief a specific player in game by ***** with his character on purpose. That seems pretty specific and horrible advertising for them to do something like that. When you said you did it because of the World's End thread I assumed you meant because of the Darwoth's/Juddaism's racism derail that TotallyMeow clipped. Why the ***** would you specifically grief me for that thread because I misunderstood who Pride was? How was I supposed to know to give the hat to Darwoth?
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Re: So why are the new dev's siding with Darwoth's Racism?

Postby loftar » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:13 pm

Since the previous cartoon appears to have too difficult for you to understand, let me try and post another one on the same theme and see how you'll manage to twist that one around:
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I think it should be slightly easier to get, at least.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Dallane » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:35 pm

The tears are real lmfao.

"political notes"

You can get a new char mem in town like you did before. All you do is spam kin request. You did it to my chars all the ***** time. Then you act like a some sort of drug dealer trying to buy peoples desc.
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Re: So why are the new dev's siding with Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:06 pm

loftar wrote:Since the previous cartoon appears to have too difficult for you to understand, let me try and post another one on the same theme and see how you'll manage to twist that one around:
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I think it should be slightly easier to get, at least.

See... this is where Europeans generally don't understand how Race works in America. While this may seem appropriate to use in Europe it doesn't work well in America.

For anybody that doesn't understand, the cartoon is making fun of the liberal white guy here if you didn't notice. It would be characterized as a conservative satire of white liberals talking about race. it doesn't really make a lot of sense and if an American conservative politician would post it on his website he'd face considerable backlash.

The problem these days isn't getting white people to get out of the way of black voices but instead finding ways to get white people to care about black social problems. Most white liberals think that since we have a black president that we generally don't have any racism or white supremacy. This cartoon would probably have worked in the 80's but not now.

Most black people have parents or grandparents or relatives who are still alive who weren't allowed to vote in certain states, or they faced significant job and housing discrimination, or they witnessed extreme racial violence in their lifetimes. You have to remember that the last American slave actually died only 43 years ago. It's easy to say that Blacks have internalized White Supremacy or Racism but in reality they and their families have dealt with it in some form all their lives. The cartoon says white's speak for them but in reality we're here to speak to you instead. Think of it like this. I'm just a white guy telling another white Swedish nerd that yes, racism does exist in America. Take it for what you will but I'm not an authority on it. I'm just another guy talking about it so that people are aware it still exists.

Saying all that, Racism and White Supremacy are of course much less than they were. American Appartheid is pretty much done as a formal institution. Mississippi finally got around to ratifying the 13th amendment to the American Constitution which ended slavery last year in 2013. The last vestiges of it remains with several states still placing the Confederate flag within their state flags but overall there are no legal or formal social policies enforced anymore.

My job isn't to speak "FOR" the black race or minorities, it's to speak "ABOUT" American racism "TO" you... a white guy from Sweden. Now after reading this little post you've learned a little bit about race relations in the U.S. and maybe you'll be more sensitive to it in the future. My job is done. :D
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:18 pm

Dallane wrote:The tears are real lmfao.

"political notes"

You can get a new char mem in town like you did before. All you do is spam kin request. You did it to my chars all the ***** time. Then you act like a some sort of drug dealer trying to buy peoples desc.

The point is that I've lost all those char mem's and kins that I had which is months of work. Dev's should not be handing out game breaking griefer clothing which is bugged anyways just to pick on a single player. They basically ruined a character that I've worked months on for no other reason than they wanted to grief me over Darwoth's thread where I derailed it about Darwoth's racism.

JC (Chief) has said that he's fixing it apparently. I'd like to know when and how.
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Re: So why are the new dev's siding with Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Brona » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:43 pm

Claeyt wrote:the cartoon is making fun of the liberal white guy here


I'm pretty sure that's two women...
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