Jorb where are you?!

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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby Darwoth » Mon May 05, 2014 7:08 pm

the last thing this game or any other needs is more potjeh suggestions.
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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby Judaism » Mon May 05, 2014 7:13 pm

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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby jwhitehorn » Mon May 05, 2014 7:31 pm

Darwoth wrote:the last thing this game or any other needs is more potjeh suggestions.
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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby alloin » Mon May 05, 2014 8:41 pm

Darwoth wrote:the last thing this game or any other needs is more potjeh suggestions.
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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby HouseLaLaurie » Mon May 05, 2014 8:47 pm

I really appreciate the fact that the developers have kept the game available for everyone, even with the changing circumstances, limited return, and constant ***** from us sheep. When you consider the fact that they could just scrap the entire endeavor at any moment they so choose, it kind of makes you appreciate the game for what it is.
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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby er-queent8r » Mon May 05, 2014 10:29 pm

HouseLaLaurie wrote:I really appreciate the fact that the developers have kept the game available for everyone, even with the changing circumstances, limited return, and constant ***** from us sheep. When you consider the fact that they could just scrap the entire endeavor at any moment they so choose, it kind of makes you appreciate the game for what it is.


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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby Argost » Tue May 06, 2014 1:45 am

jorb wrote:
cannibalkirby wrote:This game would only do better with devs that will actually focus on the game +1, it's really sad but even the indi games that have but 1 person working on them seem to update much faster than this game. I think that maybe it's a good idea to stick with one game instead of making a new one every few years because a previous one becomes too much work, all you do is let down a player base which makes them less likely to want to try any new game


The games are not equivalent from an economic standpoint. We originally began working on Salem -- setting Haven & Hearth aside -- for monetary reasons that no longer are. While we receive the majority of the income that Salem generates (a humble amount), it still remains the case that the game is not entirely ours, but a joint venture with Paradox, unlike Haven. Ceteris paribus our incentives are, naturally, to prioritize our own development. This has always been the case, and our shifting priorities have always simply reflected underlying economics. It is not the case that we prioritize one game over the other just because ***** it, and nor do I believe it an accurate description that our decisions are fickle.

If we hadn't been made an offer to attempt Salem we would never have set Haven aside in the first place, so it stands to reason that we now return to our natural orbits, especially given the relatively low interest that Salem has as compared with Haven.

Do not, by the by, interpret this as our not caring about the game, or as a statement to the effect that we will never touch it again. We might and may update it, but I want you to manage your expectations. We quite recently put some three months of fairly hard and dedicated work into the game on our own penny, so to speak, in the hopes of making it better -- not because of money, but because we care about it and want it to succeed and do well -- and if the user numbers are a reflection of success then we failed. Economically we were not particularly rewarded for it (I do not hold it against anyone! We are immensely grateful for every purchase, every care you have for the game, every everything! We do not "blame" anyone but ourselves.) I realize that you told us this, Darwoth, and that you know better than us, but it nevertheless is what it is, and it implies an uphill battle for us in the continuing development.

The game is always on our minds, we discuss it often, and we try to learn from it.


I find this statement to be a crock of crap. In all honesty I think what you did was scam the players. You did a wipe, everyone lost the stuff they had and those that did comeback and play in the new world bought silver I expect. Thus giving you a funding injection to work on the other game.
My honest opinion of you two is that you are underhanded and crooked as the Chief's arrow. Shame on you for taking advantage of those who trusted you. You are a poor excuse for an indie company.
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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby TeckXKnight » Tue May 06, 2014 1:51 am

Argost wrote:I find this statement to be a crock of crap. In all honesty I think what you did was scam the players. You did a wipe, everyone lost the stuff they had and those that did comeback and play in the new world bought silver I expect. Thus giving you a funding injection to work on the other game.
My honest opinion of you two is that you are underhanded and crooked as the Chief's arrow. Shame on you for taking advantage of those who trusted you. You are a poor excuse for an indie company.

Everyone was given everything they bought pre-wipe so virtually no one was lacking. No one that wasn't already going to buy silver bought silver. I can't even begin to imagine where you're pulling that from.
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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby Claeyt » Tue May 06, 2014 1:52 am

jorb wrote:If we hadn't been made an offer to attempt Salem we would never have set Haven aside in the first place, so it stands to reason that we now return to our natural orbits, especially given the relatively low interest that Salem has as compared with Haven..

Will there ever be another update for Salem?

If there are plans to update it, will they happen after you finish the HnH update.

If you're not going to update Salem for awhile can you at least give us back the stuff that you removed from the game like roses, the Rock Armor set and some of the other stuff.
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Re: Jorb where are you?!

Postby Argost » Tue May 06, 2014 1:55 am

TeckXKnight wrote:
Argost wrote:I find this statement to be a crock of crap. In all honesty I think what you did was scam the players. You did a wipe, everyone lost the stuff they had and those that did comeback and play in the new world bought silver I expect. Thus giving you a funding injection to work on the other game.
My honest opinion of you two is that you are underhanded and crooked as the Chief's arrow. Shame on you for taking advantage of those who trusted you. You are a poor excuse for an indie company.

Everyone was given everything they bought pre-wipe so virtually no one was lacking. No one that wasn't already going to buy silver bought silver. I can't even begin to imagine where you're pulling that from.

You can be a fanboi all ya want and defend em. Truth is what it is. They gave back silver only, nothing more. Not to mention your a mod and the last person I would listen too.
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