Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Trashy_McTrashington » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:05 am

Jalpha wrote:These are definitely some of the main reasons why so many towns fail, and why it's so difficult to build a community in Salem.


Look, I get it that jorb and loftar enjoy their drama but... let's have it be actual LEGIT drama shall we? there would still be plenty of ways to backstab without these blatantly broken ways to do so.
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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Jalpha » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:09 am

Don't misunderstand me though. Espionage should be a part of the game. It just shouldn't be so cheap. Infiltration should take time, it should be a struggle to gain permissions to effectively backstab. Mayors simply don't have functional tools to do anything about it.

The story unfolding after someone spent a month or more working their way up the ladder of trust in some town would be so much more entertaining.

I go on and on about effort versus reward and maintaining the correct balance. Well espionage is currently much too easy for the attainable reward.
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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby idiotul1 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:12 am

Trashy_McTrashington wrote:Look, I get it that jorb and loftar enjoy their drama but... let's have it be actual LEGIT drama shall we? there would still be plenty of ways to backstab without these blatantly broken ways to do so.


I think people need to come with balanced ideas first. The devs try their best to keep the game interesting while giving a hard time to become godly with your char.

Then again, it's not like they invest as much as they should be doing in terms of balancing botting and the exploits it has which people don't wish to talk about.
So I'll just raid providence when I feel like it with random signs or wood piles until the devs get tired to nuke them and implement in game rules :lol:
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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Ruane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:19 am

actually it is fine how it is, they even added another layer of permissions last week to further coddle you like they have changed EVERYTHING this world.

being in a zerg should have risks, currently the only risk/drawback at all is risk of infiltration.

there are numerous ways to basically 100% safeguard a town, just because you are to stupid to figure it out or lazy to implement any precautions whatsoever does not mean there is a problem with the game, just yourselves. if you want to play the blame game start with the mirror.
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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Dallane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:29 am

Ruane wrote:actually it is fine how it is, they even added another layer of permissions last week to further coddle you like they have changed EVERYTHING this world.

being in a zerg should have risks, currently the only risk/drawback at all is risk of infiltration.

there are numerous ways to basically 100% safeguard a town, just because you are to stupid to figure it out or lazy to implement any precautions whatsoever does not mean there is a problem with the game, just yourselves. if you want to play the blame game start with the mirror.


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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Trashy_McTrashington » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:32 am

Ruane wrote:actually it is fine how it is, they even added another layer of permissions last week to further coddle you like they have changed EVERYTHING this world.

being in a zerg should have risks, currently the only risk/drawback at all is risk of infiltration.

there are numerous ways to basically 100% safeguard a town, just because you are to stupid to figure it out or lazy to implement any precautions whatsoever does not mean there is a problem with the game, just yourselves. if you want to play the blame game start with the mirror.



I can't decide if you are a troll or serious. seriously.

"to further coddle you" oh you mean you didn't think that someone could basically stretch a pclaim over your whole town AFTER being kicked or right before was a problem? get dunked nooblord.

"100% safeguard a town" Sure, if you know everyone irl, for years.
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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby darnokpl » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:34 am

Ruane wrote:actually it is fine how it is, they even added another layer of permissions last week to further coddle you like they have changed EVERYTHING this world.

being in a zerg should have risks, currently the only risk/drawback at all is risk of infiltration.

there are numerous ways to basically 100% safeguard a town, just because you are to stupid to figure it out or lazy to implement any precautions whatsoever does not mean there is a problem with the game, just yourselves. if you want to play the blame game start with the mirror.


There is huge problem with town claims and only double town claim can solve it right now, but that doesn't mean it should work like this!
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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Ruane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:38 am

Trashy_McTrashington wrote:
"to further coddle you" oh you mean you didn't think that someone could basically stretch a pclaim over your whole town AFTER being kicked or right before was a problem? get dunked nooblord.




has not worked that way in over a year at least "nooblord"

and when it did everybody that was not a complete moron spent 5 minutes throwing a few junk claims down to prevent it from happening.
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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Trashy_McTrashington » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:40 am

Ruane wrote:
Trashy_McTrashington wrote:
"to further coddle you" oh you mean you didn't think that someone could basically stretch a pclaim over your whole town AFTER being kicked or right before was a problem? get dunked nooblord.




has not worked that way in over a year at least "nooblord"

and when it did everybody that was not a complete moron spent 5 minutes throwing a few junk claims down to prevent it from happening.


Oh really, this thread is over a year old? viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8938&hilit=deadwood
better check yourself.

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Re: Why is this trash game MADE for backstabbing?

Postby Ruane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:43 am

that claim was put down by someone in the town with permissions *****, not "expanded after he was removed" which again has not been possible in eons.
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