Know Your Enemy.

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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Claeyt » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:12 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:
jorb wrote:My intention is not to be inconsiderate, but I also cannot abide by the constant liberal insistence on societal protection for nigh on solipsistic categories of "offense". Offense is something you choose to take. Choose not to.

i dont think i was asking for "societal protection" unless you were talking about claeyt.
it seems you are the one going solipsistic about your judgement.


jeez, claeyt...ima report you for being an extreme racist against japanese :lol:
sorry but you are horribly wrong cause our core racism is more like
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you are trying to show you know something, but it just shows that you fail after all.

I helped a professor of mine write a historiography about America in Asia and I had to help him research the 1853-54 Perry Expediton's opening of Japan and I remember the Japanese propaganda-like paintings of the Americans painted for the Emperor and the Kyoto government officials to show them what the Americans were like. The Japanese are just as bad as everyone else for using de-humanizing pictures of other races.

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One of my favorite little factoids about that research was that I learned that Perry used a group of 6 free Black sailors (3 had been slaves) as his personal guards to intentionally scare the Japanese who had clearly never seen a Black man before. In a bizarre twist of history the White officers were recorded by a Japanese painter doing some period musical play for the Japanese in Black-Face about Plantation life and songs of the slaves. One can only imagine what the White Officers, the Japanese Officials dressed as Samurai and the Free Black Sailors in charge of guarding the Commodore were all thinking that night under the stars on that beach as they performed and watched that performance.

Here's the Japanese painting of the play.

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Racism is what you make of it and is a product of your society and culture. It comes from not knowing or seeing the other person as a human being not so different from yourself.
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:18 pm

so whats your point? advertising you have touched some pictures with written words you cant even read? lol
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Claeyt » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:21 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:so whats your point? advertising you have touched some pictures with written words you cant even read? lol

What do they say?

My point is that Mushi created this thread to troll the tribe but didn't realize how it might affect those players who might read it and be offended because the original images he used were incredibly racist war propaganda. I'm saying Mushi's ignorant about causing others pain because of his use of racist imagery. Maybe he just doesn't care like Jorb, and that's almost worse... and sadder.
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:23 pm

they all say: stfu, claeyt.
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Claeyt » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:26 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:they all say: stfu, claeyt.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No really, I'm interested in what they say if you're really Japanese. If not then nice troll ¦]
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby darnokpl » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:27 pm

jorb wrote:My intention is not to be inconsiderate, but I also cannot abide by the constant liberal insistence on societal protection for nigh on solipsistic categories of "offense". Offense is something you choose to take. Choose not to.


Ok, then why there is no NPC indians in your game? :roll:
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Feone » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:29 pm

I really don't see what this whole discussion is about.

All these posters are anti-tribe propaganda. Who cares what they were before they were altered? They are relevant to ingame politics and I see no reason for them to be blocked. One of the most interesting things about the pvp and politics in this game is precisely this stuff.

People need to rethink the way "racism" "sexism" etc are treated. Calling someone of another race an ******* is not racist. Propaganda against a faction in a game, in a forum specifically for game politics, is not racist. Whining that these things are trivializes the struggles of those who suffer(ed) actual racism and only serves to put a taboo on meaningful discussions that might actually solve issues instead of avoiding them.

But hey let's collectively stick our heads in the sand and make sure not to offend anyone.
On that note, delete all text on this forum. The font offends me. /s
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:30 pm

Claeyt wrote:
Tonkyhonk wrote:they all say: stfu, claeyt.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No really, I'm interested in what they say if you're really Japanese. If not then nice troll ¦]

lmao. ask around any japanese you can find on the street and accuse them of faking to be japanese because they cant read them.
is my english too *perfect* to make you doubt im not really a japanese? ¦]
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Mushibag » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:31 pm

Claeyt, get the ***** out of my thread. You are not welcome here.
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Re: Know Your Enemy.

Postby Vigilance » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:32 pm

Feone wrote:People need to rethink the way "racism" "sexism" etc are treated. Calling someone of another race an ******* is not racist.

You have offended me, and I am of a minority, thus this is a hate crime!

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