Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby jorb » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:33 pm

We have some part in the transaction, so, sure, there are things which do fall on our table, but sharing accounts and then being unhappy about the results is decidedly not within that realm.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Mushibag » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:36 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:learn to read, claeyt, or stfu.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:37 pm

jorb wrote:We have some part in the transaction, so, sure, there are things which do fall on our table, but sharing accounts and then being unhappy about the results is decidedly not within that realm.

I'll agree with that, but loftar just said that the Realak's main account was not a shared acccount and that Vigilance logged on to it. That is stealing.

I still want an answer to the question of if Realak tried to log onto his account during the raid while Vigilance was still on it preventing Realak from logging on to save his town.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby jorb » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:38 pm

Claeyt wrote:
jorb wrote:Account security is not our responsibility, no.

Does this mean that you don't care if I run a password bot to try and get everyone else's accounts and kill them all off claim?

If it's not your responsibility then please take it off your EULA. :roll:


Do you honestly believe that it is our fault when you give out your password? You have the responsibility to take proper care of your own account, and if you do not then there will arise situations where we literally cannot determine what transpired, or where it would be costly to do so. Loftar spends a fair amount of time on ***** like this, and in 99 cases out of 100 the end user is entirely to blame for the problem.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby jorb » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:39 pm

Claeyt wrote:I still want an answer to the question of if Realak tried to log onto his account during the raid while Vigilance was still on it preventing Realak from logging on to save his town.


You, sir, are not a concerned party in the first place. The situation does not concern you at all, and if we tell you anything about it, it is out of the goodness of our hearts.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Darwoth » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:41 pm

regardless of the dev response or lack thereof this simply demonstrates that as usual vigilance is a *****, for me it is very simple. unauthorized account use is unauthorized account use and this crosses my personal standard of what is acceptable or not.

i have had numerous chances in this game to hijack accounts and never have because i am not a piece of ****, even been given accounts to do with as i pleased that i returned a year later (during this relaunch) knowing full well that said accounts had large sums of money tied up in items that would be refunded, items that could have been mine. again because i am not a *****.


to date vigilance's history in salem has been.........

use a wall jump exploit to kill my pk at start of jamestown, run mouth. get all his friends killed and towns razed as a result. quits.

run his mouth on forums out of left field for a week prior to relaunch.

hijack an account to ***** over his "friends"





no sense of ethics, no skill in social engineering, no deep knowledge of game mechanics, no innovative or tricky way to use said mechanics. just a douchebag.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:42 pm

jorb wrote:
Claeyt wrote:
jorb wrote:Account security is not our responsibility, no.

Does this mean that you don't care if I run a password bot to try and get everyone else's accounts and kill them all off claim?

If it's not your responsibility then please take it off your EULA. :roll:


Do you honestly believe that it is our fault when you give out your password? You have the responsibility to take proper care of your own account, and if you do not then there will arise situations where we literally cannot determine what transpired, or where it would be costly to do so. Loftar spends a fair amount of time on ***** like this, and in 99 cases out of 100 the end user is entirely to blame for the problem.

So is this the 1 out of 100?

I completely agree that Realak shouldn't have given out his password or made a password to a shared account but from all points here loftar is saying that Realak's main account was not shared and that Vigilance was never given the account password to it but rather possibly guessed it from the other shared account.

Please, just look to see if Realak tried to log onto his main account to try and save his town while Vigilance was on it. That right there would confirm if it was stolen or not in my mind.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:43 pm

jorb wrote:
Claeyt wrote:I still want an answer to the question of if Realak tried to log onto his account during the raid while Vigilance was still on it preventing Realak from logging on to save his town.


You, sir, are not a concerned party in the first place. The situation does not concern you at all, and if we tell you anything about it, it is out of the goodness of our hearts.

It's my concern because I don't want to play a game, or buy things with RL money if it's okay with the dev's for people to steal my accounts. Namely, I'm concerned that my accounts will be stolen like this.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby jorb » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:43 pm

Claeyt wrote:So is this the 1 out of 100?


Nope. It is an extremely mundane case of the 99. ****** security on the end-users side. End of story.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:47 pm

jorb wrote:
Claeyt wrote:So is this the 1 out of 100?


Nope. It is an extremely mundane case of the 99. ****** security on the end-users side. End of story.

so password hacker bots are too much, but humans individually guessing similar account passwords isn't?
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