Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:32 pm

loftar wrote:I didn't say that it's "okay", and I may well decide to pursue such cases at my own pleasure. In this particular case, however, there's also the other matters which I brought up that should be accounted for.

No, that's exactly what you just said. You just said that Vigilance's multiple and numerous attempts at guessing another person's account based off his knowledge of that person's other account until he successfully guessed it was okay and fair game. Does this mean that my attempts at guessing another person's accounts are considered "part of the game"?

Utter *****.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:34 pm

loftar wrote:
Whiskybob wrote:How I see it: if the keys are left under the matt its okay to rob the house.

A more appropriate interpretation would be that you can't expect me to clean up your mess if you don't do your part. I didn't say that it's "okay", and I may well decide to pursue such cases at my own pleasure. In this particular case, however, there's also the other matters which I brought up that should be accounted for.


A better example would be that a person borrowed your car and you said to place your keys to your car under the car's floor mat when he's done and then that person wanted to rob your house's safe so that person guessed that he should lift up every single rug, mat, and carpet until he eventually found your safe key under one of them.

Utter failure by the admins

You just told us that one person stole another person's account by guessing his password after multiple attempts and that you're okay with that happening in this game.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Tonkyhonk » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:36 pm

learn to read, claeyt, or stfu.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Champie » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:39 pm

Claeyt wrote:
loftar wrote:I didn't say that it's "okay", and I may well decide to pursue such cases at my own pleasure. In this particular case, however, there's also the other matters which I brought up that should be accounted for.

No, that's exactly what you just said. You just said that Vigilance's multiple and numerous attempts at guessing another person's account based off his knowledge of that person's other account until he successfully guessed it was okay and fair game. Does this mean that my attempts at guessing another person's accounts are considered "part of the game"?

Utter *****.


Actaully, loftar said that there was no evidence of any failed attempts to login with the account:
Investigations shew that the initial Accusation does not stand up to scrutiny, seeing as how Vigilance, or for that matter anyone else , never even once used a wrong password in a failed attempt to log in to Realak's personal Account.


Loftar did not provide enough information about this: "(apart, incidentally, from Realak himself)" to conclude whether or not those failed attempts were part of an earlier effort at guessing that actually succeeded, thus allowing a perpetrator to later log in WITHOUT a failed attempt. No accusation, just an observation. I have to assume loftar already considered that and negated that based on IPs.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:42 pm

Champie wrote:
Claeyt wrote:
loftar wrote:I didn't say that it's "okay", and I may well decide to pursue such cases at my own pleasure. In this particular case, however, there's also the other matters which I brought up that should be accounted for.

No, that's exactly what you just said. You just said that Vigilance's multiple and numerous attempts at guessing another person's account based off his knowledge of that person's other account until he successfully guessed it was okay and fair game. Does this mean that my attempts at guessing another person's accounts are considered "part of the game"?

Utter *****.


Actaully, loftar said that there was no evidence of any failed attempts to login with the account:
Investigations shew that the initial Accusation does not stand up to scrutiny, seeing as how Vigilance, or for that matter anyone else (apart, incidentally, from Realak himself), never even once used a wrong password in a failed attempt to log in to Realak's personal Account.


Okay, I take that one back. I see that now.

Still, Vigi logged onto his account without permission. Loftar says he proved that.

Loftar, Could you tell us if Realak tried to log onto his main account while Vigilance was on it preventing him from logging on during the raid?
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby naosnule » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:43 pm

Claeyt wrote:
Still, Vigi logged onto his account without permission. Loftar says he proved that.


Yes, and it is good that there is a drawback to account-sharing.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Cheena » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:52 pm

It's just like anything else in salem. Share it with the wrong person and you're ***** :|
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby jorb » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:22 pm

Account security is not our responsibility, no.
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby darnokpl » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:29 pm

jorb wrote:Account security is not our responsibility, no.


Even in case when someone will try brute force?
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Re: Tribal Horde Presents Dances-With-Dudes

Postby Claeyt » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:32 pm

jorb wrote:Account security is not our responsibility, no.

Does this mean that you don't care if I run a password bot to try and get everyone else's accounts and kill them all off claim?

If it's not your responsibility then please take it off your EULA. :roll:
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