[Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby sabinati » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:25 am

just update it on the wiki! :evil:
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:43 am

If you don't know how to add it to the tables, add it to the "Discussion" page. Someone else with more knowledge can come behind and stick it in its proper format.

Not sure how to do that? It's just like posting something on the forum here. Click the "Add topic" tab. Type what you want in the text box. Here's the important part when leaving messages on a wiki, though. Nobody can easily see who posted what, so you have to make sure to sign it!! You can do this with a click of the "Signature" button--it looks like someone's scrawled name. (text: --~~~~)
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby MvGulik » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:30 pm

salemwiki: Darkness wrote:Setting your homestead in a humour draining area is a bad idea
When respawning at a lean-to in a humour draining area, you will immediately be KO'd again. You will then be presented with an option to respawn in Boston.

Mmm. I have a Lean-to in the border area of the Lumberwoods. But I did not see any option being presented to respan at Boston.

Case Location: Lean-to located one or two map-tiles away from where a [5,5,5,5] character will start to see a active drain.
Case 1: Forgot I had Wander speed active. [KO],[Respan at Lean-to],[KO again at Lean-to, after a small delay],[Respan at Lean-to, and pressed "Travel to Boston" ASAP], [Boston, pfew ...]
Case 2: Fell asleep while character was studying stuff near/next to Lean-to ... when I woke up. (4h+). The Character was (still) in the [KO'ed]+[Respan at Home] loop, with all humours (first number only, BDSalem client) at zero.

Lucky that Darkness-KO is not giving any learning-points damage (yet).

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Note/data: On character log-on, after log-off, you do get a message about the last location being blocked (character inside lean-to at log-off), and if you like to continue at your Home location (with current inventory). But no Boston option here either. [No] == No character log-in.)
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Uberness » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:20 am

lol I had that same problem with a bear camping my leanto on my first character, I revived he roared I was out again...no chance to do anything because a bear roar/growl is about the same timing of waking up from ko, so when all my proficiencies were worthless I just started a new character(all that to say I can confirm there is no spawn in boston option)
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Procne » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:12 pm

I did fix some tables for gluttony and healing values in food section. Tables can now handle some additional calculations so I have added sums to gluttony tables. Anything else useful that can be added?

Also, if anyone is going to change templates - bear in my mind that tables strictly rely on what is defined in templates
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby milonti » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:29 pm

Procne wrote:I did fix some tables for gluttony and healing values in food section. Tables can now handle some additional calculations so I have added sums to gluttony tables. Anything else useful that can be added?

Also, if anyone is going to change templates - bear in my mind that tables strictly rely on what is defined in templates


Thank you, thats something thats been meaning to get done for awhile. Just noone with the time/work ethic XD

If you feel up to another challenge, think you could add in a column for average?
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Procne » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:57 pm

done, although it's kinda redundant since average = sum / 4 :D
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby milonti » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:11 pm

Procne wrote:done, although it's kinda redundant since average = sum / 4 :D

Well we were also thinking about a reliability stat to go with the average. Something based on how easy it is to get a specific stat out of gluttoning a food. Like if a food had BB values for 3 of the 4 events, itd be much more reliable than if it only had 1 of the 4 events.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Procne » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:46 pm

I think absolute or standard deviation would be good here. Food which gives 10 gluttony values in 3 elements and 3 in 4th is only slightly more reliable than food which gives 11 in 3 elements and 0 in 4th. Or food which gives 10 in 4 elements and food which gives 15 in 2 and 5 in other 2.

Or maybe better deviation / average ratio.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby milonti » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:57 pm

Procne wrote:I think absolute or standard deviation would be good here. Food which gives 10 gluttony values in 3 elements and 3 in 4th is only slightly more reliable than food which gives 11 in 3 elements and 0 in 4th. Or food which gives 10 in 4 elements and food which gives 15 in 2 and 5 in other 2.

Or maybe better deviation / average ratio.


I was thinking of a formula similar to the purity formula. Rather than across the 4 alchemical values, put it across the 4 values for a humor. Should come up with a similar system. Never though/wrote it out enough to actually implement it. I don't think deviations would e entirely useful though. Because sometimes you want a food that is 50,0,0,0 for YB. Because even though its only got an average of 12.5, if you manage to hit one or two of those 50's, its much better than hitting all 4 of a 12.5,12.5,12.5,12.5.
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