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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby Nektaris » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:15 pm

I still haven't seen a single video showing this so complex and based on acute prediction combat system of this beautiful game that is Salem.
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby gacekssj4 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:25 pm

Nektaris wrote:Did you even play other mmorpgs/sandbox other than Salem?

7 years in WoW and less played ones: Flyff, Ragnarok, Rift, TERA, 9Dragons, RF Online (not counting world of tanks and eve since combat system is completly different storry).

So played few... I personally wouldn't mind if this game "handling" was more like Warcraft/Dota2 :D, since this system is one of best ones (at last for me). But I dont think devs would be able to re-create it (and would want, as well as this wicked society :) ).
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby Mereni » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:31 pm

Nektaris wrote:Again, you can't even explain why Salem's combat system is good. (you are only defending it because you are addicted to it)
How can you define good a combat system with no collision detection, damage input-output indicator, laggy and based on character's stats and not on player's skills?


Salem's combat system is good because you have to practice and think about what you are doing to win. Also, good because the defender has an advantage, it's easy to escape a fight if you just don't panic.

How is no collision detection a bad thing? It can mean the difference between life and death if you're running away from someone, and gives the advantage to the one running away, while collision detection would give the advantage to the one chasing.

There is damage indication in the form of numbers for damage done. Are you saying you want to know the total humors of the person you're fighting too? I like that idea. It gives people with high humors and little sense a false feeling of confidence when up against someone who knows what they are doing. I've seen combats where higher humored characters who think they'll win because of their high stats have been sorely mistaken because their opponent had better moves.

Stats do have an effect up to a point. A 700 humor character doesn't have so much to fear from a 100 humor one, but Salem's combat system is very much based on skills, practice, understanding your terrain, and using the right attack/defense in the right situation. It's very difficult to be very good but if you are, you can beat someone more than twice your humors.
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby Mereni » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:42 pm

Nektaris wrote:Horrible combat system + ****** community (always the same persons) = fail game

And btw, the only video you guys posted were about port-killing others in their own base. SUCH SKILLS, MUCH FUN, WOW.


A very quick search of 'fight video' turned up several. If you really want to see videos of players fighting, they're all over the forum.

Because I'm such a nice person, here: http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2583&p=34664&hilit=fight+video#p34475

Three at the top of the page, two more near the bottom.
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby gacekssj4 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:43 pm

This game system is good. Still. those 300-400 biles are problem for this system. Since those with high skill and high biles are becoming gods. So whole system ain't bad. Bad is difference in power. Currently its grind focused game.
And yes.. 100 biles can kill an inexperienced player with 200 biles. But still 2 experienced players cannot match againstt each other with 100 vs 200 biles. If game was capped to 50 biles, then it would expose true potential of this system... but here comes hate at me :D
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby daopa » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:34 pm

Hey help me!

I'm lost in this thread - no idea what I'm reading anymore ...


Can someone sum up any new Patch Related news, other then whats on the first page?


Thanks!
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby DeepSixed » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:08 am

the more I hear about bots and such the less interested I am in Salem... at least with TES... it has an active Dev team. Jorb/Loftar were once part of such an 'entity'... what happened there? Is there any reason to believe they'll be more active now?
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby Brona » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:12 am

DeepSixed wrote:the more I hear about bots and such the less interested I am in Salem... at least with TES... it has an active Dev team. Jorb/Loftar were once part of such an 'entity'... what happened there? Is there any reason to believe they'll be more active now?



Seriously play or don't play. Not one person gives a single *****. JUST SHUT THE ***** UP.
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:49 am

daopa wrote:Can someone sum up any new Patch Related news, other then whats on the first page?


Thanks!


There hasn't really been any. Just some of the players crying over their pixels. HTFU

Nowhere has jorb ever said there won't be a wipe. This is why the game is still in the BETA stage.

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Brona wrote:Seriously play or don't play. Not one person gives a single *****. JUST SHUT THE ***** UP.

Not sure I'd put it that way, but I agree.
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Re: Upcoming Patch Announcement

Postby TeckXKnight » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:54 am

DeepSixed wrote:the more I hear about bots and such the less interested I am in Salem... at least with TES... it has an active Dev team. Jorb/Loftar were once part of such an 'entity'... what happened there? Is there any reason to believe they'll be more active now?

No they weren't, it was always just the two of them and they got a third guy to help them with the website for a small while because of paradox. They'll be as active as they ever are but don't expect weekly updates because that schedule leads them to be unhappy with the results.
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