No more personal keys

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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Kandarim » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:29 am

DarkSeed wrote:
Kandarim wrote:This would simply imply going back to Haven's key alt system

"Key-alt" is a pain-in-da-ass for it's users mostly. So it may be free for use for everyone if they want to.


What idiot wouldn't do it ? Losing your keys when out foraging means you basically give your enemy a free ticket to your ENTIRE base. The irritation of a key alt far outweighs the risk of rendering all your defenses worthless. Even more so because in salem we have braziers (and torchposts, I guess) which form a large part of a claim's defense.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Procne » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:00 pm

Darwoth wrote:havens "key alt" system was far superior to this personal keys *****.


In what way? Together with signpost teleportation - I'll agree. But on its own it is only another chore - a requirement of maintaining and using key alt. Having to log into key alt whenever you want to leave or enter your camp adds no gameplay value and is only annoying.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Dallane » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:28 pm

there is a reason why they didn't put haven's key system in here. It ***** sucks and so does the cross road system.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Procne » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:30 pm

I think crossroad system is what gives Haven possibilities of creating large towns and protecting them from spies, which imo is much better than what we have in Salem. It may be weird but it gets the job done.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Syndarn » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:12 pm

DarkSeed wrote:This is hardcore. Are you still thinking it's a kind of "my little farm"?


Dude. In sense haven is much more hardcore than this. Since some animals have murder (or atleast had). I was suprised that the bear is sucha nice teddy now. Ive played in 2 worlds. But it was during the old LP system. If the key attunement disappears. Ill just use a keyalt. Since it's the most secure solution i could think off. Altough i do hate it very much, since it's quite annoying and i know this because ive used it in haven multiple times.

Dallane wrote:there is a reason why they didn't put haven's key system in here. It ***** sucks and so does the cross road system.

They key system sucks very much on haven that's for sure. But i like'd the crossroad system. Even tho it's abit of a cheating. But atleast there the community had to set up the trades somewhere and meet up and you could really get killed if you trusted the wrong guy. There generally was never a safe area like boston.

In some sense Salem is ***** compared to Haven.

In general the biggest improvement in Salem is it's key system that you can use 1 key to all locks if you want to. I think that is superb. Then again attuning keys and such it's very much illogical in my opinion. But the system works quite well, altough it doesn't give any other options if you want to commit larceny than just knock down the walls first.

I think i once suggested pickpocketing and lockpicking to be new blackskills into Haven. I don't really remember much of that debate.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby DarkSeed » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:50 pm

Syndarn wrote:Dude.

"Dude" is your mom's boyfriend. I'm not a "dude". You may address me "Sir".

all suckers wrote:Key-alt is such a pain in my ass, i don't wanna use it in Salem!

And you shouldn't. But IF you're too scared of some game realism - sure, make a key-alt and keep whining how it hurts you.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Syndarn » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:02 pm

DarkSeed wrote:
Syndarn wrote:Dude.

"Dude" is your mom's boyfriend. I'm not a "dude". You may address me "Sir".


You are not worthy of that adressment. Dude.

all suckers wrote:
DarkSeed wrote:Key-alt is such a pain in my ass, i don't wanna use it in Salem!

And you shouldn't. But IF you're too scared of some game realism - sure, make a key-alt and keep whining how it hurts you.


Since when does your opinion weigh more here? This atleast was a somewhat civilized conversation until you started provoking us and calling us cowards because the conversation didn't go your way.

Jorb and loftar will follow their vision anyway. I will respect that.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Dallane » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:12 pm

Syndarn wrote:But atleast there the community had to set up the trades somewhere and meet up and you could really get killed if you trusted the wrong guy. There generally was never a safe area like boston.


Trading is safe in haven. If you ***** up a trade then no one will be trading with you again. No need to a xroad trading system here due to boston.

Syndarn wrote:I think i once suggested pickpocketing and lockpicking to be new blackskills into Haven. I don't really remember much of that debate.


Pickpocketing would be impossible to pull off since if you are close enough to pickpocket then you are close enough to KO someone(or them you).
lockpick was prolly shot down fast because you would never need a ram.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby DarkSeed » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:14 pm

Syndarn wrote:You are not worthy of that adressment.

From such a wimpy character as you, it'll worth nothing anyway. So just get lost.
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Re: No more personal keys

Postby Dallane » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:16 pm

DarkSeed wrote:
Syndarn wrote:You are not worthy of that adressment.

From such a wimpy character as you, it'll worth nothing anyway. So just get lost.


chill out dude
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