Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby Ikpeip » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:19 am

Mushibag wrote:
Ikpeip wrote:Good evening,

This caught us by surprise. What pages, specifically, do you object to? The wiki is not intended for forum trolling, and we've been fairly fastidious in updating it with information as requested.

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-Paul the Paymaster

I was pretty surprised by that too, at first. Jorb's comment lead me to go read the biographies, etc more thoroughly. I'm sure he's got a problem with basically all of the pages related to forum moderation. Unlike the lore section, and the other biographies that may be inaccurate but all in good fun, the moderator pages are obviously malicious in nature.


Acknowledged.

Edit:

We have censored the following pages to appease the Swedish Libertarian Party:

http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Colesie
http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=MagicManICT
http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Sabinati
http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Potjeh
http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=The_Lesser_Mods

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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby ZtyX » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:44 am

And that is why Jorb is the Greater Spirit. He can checkmate Chief like nobody else.

Also, gotta love it when developers are willing to deal with a controversial subject like that, stay fair and impartial while addressing the concern of the community in public.

Chief is the bad guy here. There's no doubt about that. But he's always looking for that next creative surge and that's admirable. And with all his power and strength it's difficult not to become incrasingly corrupted. Especially when you have as much freedom as you do in Salem. Freedom to 1 hit noobs and average players even. It seems that nobody in the game can really seriously challenge Chief and sometimes a defeat is exactly what you need to recover your focus. Therefore, Jorb is in fact doing Chief a service by giving him 7 days to find himself and reset with nature. Last time Chief got a ban was for 30 days and he came back with a Wiki and a series of other initiatives! Who knows what is in store for us next?

Finally, I'd like to point to anyone who might be confused as to why Jorb is willing to take a lot of fights for Chief and protect him. Well, it's rather simple. Jorb recognizes that Chief is a product of Salem.
In other words, Chief is a child of Salem and severely immersed into this world. He has simply adapted to the environment of this game. Therefore, you can't really blame him for being a bad guy. He's just playing by the rules. ... Still, at the end of the day Chief, Darwoth and Candy Gang all could do a heck of a lot more for this game than they are. But really... They have a role. They're the bad guys. It's the good guys that there are too few of. Or "other guys" in general. Probably because the population is too low and probably because the legacy humus demotivates people and presents too big of a difference between those in power and those who want to be. But really.. It's a mix of everything. And of course too few patches is a part of it. But you can never have enough patches and you'll always find excuses. At the end of the day people are just weak, so what can you reall expect? Nothing much. Just what we have now. Old tyrants losing control and devs having to step in to try and keep things just A LITTLE in perspective. I wonder if things are ever going to change and someone, a benevolent hero leader will come out of the darkness. If not for long, then at least for a while so we can breathe some fresh air in this wretched world..
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby jcwilk » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:51 am

ZtyX wrote:They're the bad guys.


+1

I do really like Salem, mainly because you can tell it's a labor of love and that the devs are anything but sellouts, they actually want to push the envelope and make a good mmo.

That being said, the game would be boring as ***** without worthy adversaries to defend and rebel against. So pras to the baddies for saving us from that possible reality :P
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby Dallane » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:28 am

ZtyX wrote:In other words, Chief is a child of Salem and severely immersed into this world.


He has been doing this for some years now in different mmos. Salem isn't anything new for his antics.
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby Kram_Yelooc » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:41 am

The Skill French Cuisine has a requirement of the skill Simple Cooking but is not included on the wiki page
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby Kram_Yelooc » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:05 am

The skill Humble Abodes also needs the requirement of the skill Settling added to it.
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby Jalpha » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:57 pm

It's also mildly malicious stating that one of the reasons he created his own wiki was as a result of impartial moderation, and biased removal of updates the tribe made there.

In fact what actually occurred was that the leading members of the tribe continuously trolled IRC chat about how bad the wiki was yet refused to update it on the grounds that they would have had to make an account to make changes...

Yet another instance of the truth being buried in *****. If it's a wiki the facts should be facts, not half-truths or fallacies.

But whatever, if something good comes of it then that's... good.
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby Mereni » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:26 am

Kram_Yelooc wrote:The Skill French Cuisine has a requirement of the skill Simple Cooking but is not included on the wiki page


Kram_Yelooc wrote:The skill Humble Abodes also needs the requirement of the skill Settling added to it.


Fixed, thank you.

Jalpha wrote:It's also mildly malicious stating that one of the reasons he created his own wiki was as a result of impartialpartisan moderation, and biased removal of updates the tribe made there.

In fact what actually occurred was that the leading members of the tribe continuously trolled IRC chat about how bad the wiki was yet refused to update it on the grounds that they would have had to make an account to make changes...

Yet another instance of the truth being buried in *****. If it's a wiki the facts should be facts, not half-truths or fallacies.

But whatever, if something good comes of it then that's... good.


... Chief trolls everything. The main point of this wiki IS ensuring that the facts are made available to everyone without the hostile environment created by an extremely biased mod who doesn't even play the game anymore being the administrator. The tribe has tested all aspects of the game more thoroughly than any other group or individual, including the devs. The mod pages were a jab in response to the unfair treatment we've undergone, but they've been removed. Even the lore section is only slightly embellished to make it entertaining.
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby TeckXKnight » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:28 am

Mereni wrote:... Chief trolls everything. The main point of this wiki IS ensuring that the facts are made available to everyone without the hostile environment created by an extremely biased mod who doesn't even play the game anymore being the administrator. The tribe has tested all aspects of the game more thoroughly than any other group or individual, including the devs. The mod pages were a jab in response to the unfair treatment we've undergone, but they've been removed. Even the lore section is only slightly embellished to make it entertaining.

Isn't that the malicious part though? Sabinati has demonstrated that all of the accusations are groundless and that all activity of that sort is completely transparent on the wiki. Nothing about the environment was made hostile or biased by Sabinati.
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Re: Salem-Wiki Tribe Endorsed

Postby Khaztropix » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:13 am

TeckXKnight wrote:Nothing about the environment was made hostile or biased by Sabinati.


Yea... just like the forums were never made hostile or biased by Sabinati either. Don't kid your self...
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