Let's have that political discussion.

[Darwoth]

i am not about to waste my time on the nonsensical drivel of some ***** retard from a socialist nanny state that thinks freedom of speech is a bad thing.

i don't think you really understand the magnitude of your viewpoint, it is pretty much as though i was talking to a guy at bestbuy about a tv and then he suddenly started barking like a dog and pissed all over the computer section. there is no further discourse to be had at said juncture as the guy is obviously not playing with all of his cards.

[MagicManICT]

Great map, darwoth. I find it quite interesting in what it tells and doesn't tell. One thing it doesn't tell is exactly how much of the countries population lives where, but if you overlay it with a population map, you'll find over 50% of the population in the blue areas. The other 50% of the population is spread out over about 80% of the land mass. It also doesn't tell you which areas are considered "contested" (about a 50/50 split that tends towards one or the other) or which areas are solidly red or blue (someone of the opposite party doesn't stand a chance in hell in winning unless his opponent is a complete idiot and the person is a party of the other party in name only).

Just because you're a part of the 80% on that map doesn't make you a part of the majority. We don't count votes by square mile.

[Darwoth]

pretty sure i went over the whole population density thing already, but thanks.

it is no secret that half of the country are sacks of **** looking to live on the dime of the other half, and it is also no secret that most of them congregate in large urban *****. you know, precisely as the map demonstrates.

the interactive map shows the percentage breakdowns, most red states for that election ( even with a pathetic liberal candidate like romney representing "republicans" causing a large portion to vote third party instead) were red by 65%, most blue states were blue by 55%. the county map traditionally remains largely unchanged election to election as a "swing state" typically comes down to one or two "swing county" (medium city) the states that gave obama the election ranged from a margin of .8% to 5% with again the majority of the state being red with a singular metropolitan hemmoroid consisting of a few million ***** being what outweighs the rest of the state and turns it blue.

what the map also demonstrates is that the areas of production are solidly red, the areas of entitlements and losers are solidly blue. it is downright hilarious, you have a big band of black dominated neighborhoods/cities right across the south, bastions of liberal extremism along the west coast and in the far northeast and mexican sanctuary cities along the southern border where the illegals have taken over.

the areas made up mostly of middle class americans that earn what they have are all shaded in red

[Shill]

The problem is not space, its resources.

You give only a redirect, but nothing to substantiate your statement. Then you give me this:

Just goes to show you what kids are taught in school these days.

Ad hominem in persona, at best. But you don't put the breaks on, instead pedal to the floor with:

If i had a catholic education i would have either of been molested by a person pretending to be a voice of god, or killed myself, perhaps both.

More inductive logic. Faulty.

PS: I know the "STORY" of NOAH. Just like i know the story of the Three little pigs, nothing but nursery stories.

Historical accounts and nursery rhymes, are hardly the same thing. For an account, you either believe, or you don't. That belief is faith upon reasoning. Assigning it the status to that of a narrative(which I assume you're doing to conjoin it) as to downplay it to a nursery rhyme, is hardly reasoning at all.

Inb4 omg he used the word faith.

Faith on reason: I am perfectly convinced anesthetics work on me, and will knock me out, and I won't feel a thing. This does not mean that as I am strapped down to the operating table, I do not begin to feel the emotion of panic. My fear of pain as my imagination gets the better of me. I lose my faith, as the saying goes. The mind is not ruled by reason alone. It is ruled by faith, reasoning, emotions and the imagination.

You'll find the other popular arguments against Historical Account are splitting hairs at best. Example, If I read two accounts of Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon, one will say he crossed at a tributary, and another near a shallow brook. Which is it? Who cares. Both say he crossed either way, and what happens afterward, happened. Therefor I reason and have faith, that is highly probable Caesar did in fact: Cross the Rubicon.

You either believe it, or you don't. Let's cut the patronizing non-sense and the talking of soft-soap.

With Regards,

Shill the Thief

[MagicManICT]

pretty sure i went over the whole population density thing already, but thanks.

Sorry if I missed it. My mistake. I didn't even look to see if the map was linked to something else.

[Potjeh]

ITT we learn that moonshine stills up in the Ozarks are more important for maintaining modern civilization than industrial centres. Well, I guess it's just that all them red areas wouldn't notice if any blue ones disappeared, for example Moline, Illinois (HQ of John Deere).

[Claeyt]

ITT we learn that moonshine stills up in the Ozarks are more important for maintaining modern civilization than industrial centres. Well, I guess it's just that all them red areas wouldn't notice if any blue ones disappeared, for example Moline, Illinois (HQ of John Deere).

If all the Blue areas disappeared every single Cable Station, Computer and Phone wouldn't work and TV would be down to 4 stations and the emergency broadcast channel.

Over half the food processing plants in the country would stop working. Most of the Industrial Centers of the Country would disappear and most major airports would close (That is if you're including Blue Areas of Red States).

[Darwoth]

are you ***** kidding me?

cable internet and a meat packing plant is not mandatory for the survival of the country and can be rebuilt...... ANYWHERE and since liberal policies along with unions have driven almost all of our industry overseas the cities in this country now truly have no purpose whatsoever. there is literally nothing there but a service based economy and ten million ***** with free money to sustain it.

again, the blue areas are nothing but a cancer to the rest of the country, their absence would not be missed and other than a temporary blip in iphone service (oh no! ) their absence would not be noticed at all. pretty sure no longer having literally almost all of the worthless dregs of the country to pay for or liberal scum ruining the fabric of the country would be more than worth whatever minor inconveniences one would suffer.

[Potjeh]

USA still has the highest manufacturing output in the world, even if China is set to usurp that position.

[Darwoth]

yeah that is a common line of ***** thrown around when liberals and environmentalists are confronted with the fact they have driven manufacturing overseas since "manufacturing" is able to be so broadly defined to include almost anything made anywhere from a jar of jelly to a missile and at that point the size and wealth of the country kicks in to cloud the real impact of the problem. most "manufacturing" that is of value is no longer contained in traditional places like the rust belt but have moved to "red" states and most "manufacturing" of miscellaneous ***** to make all of that other "manufacturing" possible is now overseas. if the automobile companies were not bailed out by the government so that the unions (their voter base) would not suddenly find themselves out of a ***** job the blue sections of the country would be even more worthless.

you can piss and moan and nitpick until you find some minor inaccuracy to argue semantics all day long, fact of the matter is precisely what i said. the "blue" areas of the country are composed of takers, the red are composed of the producers and i am not going to take the claeyt bait and follow you into some stupid ***** argument about something else to distract from that.