darnokpl wrote:Claeyt wrote:A group of friends of mine were setting up a new mining camp, and were busy little beavers, digging and mining when their place got hit.
Claeyt wrote:... They raided 2 camps of friends of mine and another camp of someone I didn't know.
Interesting, first it was ONE camp now TWO...
Your imaginary friends got more camps? When are you going to tell us about them?
As always, arguing with Darnokpl is becoming more and more pointless, I don't even know why I bother. Everybody else gets it but him.
1. I started tracking the raiders from my newb friends mining camp.
2. I had known that a neighbor of their's got raided several days before, I received further information that the Crimson Rosie's had done this also. I also received evidence from that raid.
3. I then heard from yet another friend in the area that he had also been raided. I went and collected evidence and ported to my lean to next the Rosie's thus proving that they raided him too.
I hope this makes it clear. None of these friends are imaginary, although for obvious reasons I'm not going to reveal their names. I have many, many in game friends and acquaintances, as Rainbow proved earlier. (thanks Rainbow, you rock)
darnokpl wrote:We heard about SB ranger hero of the fort... you said you know him... but your tracking/ranger job was huge fail?
How exactly was my tracking/ranger job a huge fail? I tracked them exactly to their town, I took screen shots of their defenses, I mapped their location, I revealed that their town harbor's raiders on the forum, I sold their location for newb compensation. Justice served.
darnokpl wrote:And finally we all heard about propaganda-rangers on plymouth long time ago and I got feeling they are now on roa, since they can't gather any force on their home server
What the hell is a propaganda ranger? If you mean someone who falsely charges a town with raiding for political purposes then how does this pertain to this thread. As far as I know, the Crimson Rosie's have no major player enemies, and they certainly don't in any of the forum threads. I can't even tell if they even read the forums. This is a simple case of me tracking some raiders to a town, and has nothing to do with politics.
darnokpl wrote: I am really very curious what is your real account name.
Well of course my real account name is Claeyt. That is also the name of my main character, who I don't general kin people with or go to Boston with. I have several secondary mid humour characters including the tracker/mountain climber that found the Crimson Rosie's. These secondary characters are known to my friends only and I won't reveal their names. I've probably got 4 other worker alts who don't matter. Most people know me by my merchant character which Rainbow revealed earlier. He is always willing to help newb's out with general game questions and fair trades in Roanoke. He's been offline more since I now have shared access to a stall. He has over 2000 characters memorized now, and over 500 people kinned, including you Darnokpl.
As I've stated before. I am a very nice person in game. I've never raided a claimed area or had any evidence tracking me with any of my characters. I understand the rules of raiding and PVP and really don't mind raiders who don't kill anybody, but also hope that raiders understand the other half of the rules; that they can be tracked and that their town's location will be shown or sold.
I generally only have 4 rules in Salem for myself, and if you want to be my friend, or want my help:
1. Always help the newbs. I want as many people as possible to be playing Salem. It makes the game more fun for me. By raiding obvious newb camps much lower than yours, and screwing newbs over in the market, or killing newbs for PVP practice hurts the game and hurts the amount of people who stick with the game. I'm always willing to answer questions in forum PM or in game. I remember how hard it was getting started 4 months ago when I started playing.
2. Never screw anybody over in the market, always be willing to trade stuff back if someone changes his mind.
3. Don't kill anybody unless they've killed someone you know first. It doesn't make any sense to kill anybody in a raid, when you can raid them, knock them out, leave them their character to rebuild, then raid them again a month later.
4. If your going to raid, be nice about it. Only take what you're going to use, don't throw stuff on the ground to rot, don't smash stuff for no reason. (I have one raider friend who always leaves a sign at camps he raids saying what they did wrong, "you left the wall unclaimed", "never lock your sheds or raiders will smash them open", etc...) I respect raiders who do these things, and realize it's part of the game.
For what it's worth, The Crimson Rosie's were very nice raiders. They didn't toss anything on the ground to rot, in fact they put a lot back into the boxes, They packed everything up in 2 chests, 2 boxes and the boat and left. They didn't smash anything or destroy the infrastructure. Of course that doesn't mean I can't ranger their town and sell their info so that someone can do the same to them.
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I didn't see those people online this week, so I never got a chance to ask them. If raiding is part of the game, then why isn't blackmailing raiders. I think that's absolutely a weapon to be used in a MMO with permadeath. I also don't think of it as blackmail, but rather as seeking compensation. They could have gotten their info held for far less than the 10,000s I was asking for. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would have paid. I would have laughed at being caught and said fine, I'll pay you some $ to not reveal my map, but not 10,000. Then the haggling would have begun.