Good evening,
kulbek wrote:Members of the MM Tribe again attacked my camp.
And this is despite the fact that negotiations are taking place.
Good job boys.
Negotiations are not taking place - just because you are still talking, does not make this a negotiation. When I rejected your demands, I did not say "you are asking for too much, perhaps we can meet somewhere in the middle" - I said "No." When you did not accept the offer of the week to get back on your feet and I rescinded it, that was the point when you should've been expecting a Brave showing up. I've got the feeling pretty much everyone reading this thread understood this except you. Your options at this point are to move somewhere else (either on Plymouth, or another server), or to expect continued assaults. Again, some less time spent forum warrioring and more time spent thinking about the actual situation you are in would've saved you some trouble.
Claeyt wrote:Gallient wrote:PMP rescinded his offer of a free week, should've taken it instead of thinking you were entitled to more because you dropped 70s in a box and hoped it would make khaz go away. You have no position to negotiate anything from and I don't understand why you think you would. There are plenty of treaty payers living happily and in peace. Tribe doesn't have to offer any safety to anyone. Chief makes the treaty to give people an alternative to getting raided on sight, that doesn't mean non-treaty payers are entitled to something as well, not a 24hr notice, not "negotiations", not anything.
Can a new player at least be informed that there is a treaty and what it is before getting killed? If this guy had refused to pay the treaty or refused to talk or whatever, fine, raid him, kill him, but he agreed to pay the treaty, probably with a lot of language barrier misunderstandings, then was killed anyways. That's griefing not government.
This misconception seems to keep popping up.
You do not have a right to safety in Salem. The Treaty is a privilege, not a right. The Braves are under no obligation to knock politely at your gates and drop off a "The Treaty and You" pamphlet. There have been situations where Braves have given (more-or-less) polite notice instead of raiding, yes. But these are generous acts by individual Braves, and should not be misconstrued as required procedure.
Claeyt wrote:To PmP and the Chief,
A little ranger/treaty collector training might go a long ways towards how the newbs view the tribe. Public Relations are killing your treaty and your server.
Again, a misunderstanding on the nature of the Treaty and my role in it.
I administrate the Treaty to meet the Vision of the Tribe. The Tribe does not work to meet my Vision of a Treaty. I have a very large amount of autonomy and discretion in how to conduct my tasks, yes, but let's not get confused about who works for who here.
There is no need for ranger training - a ranger collects scents and kills a criminal. We have Braves who are masters of this craft. As for Treaty Collector training, that assumes that is the duty of a Brave to collect for the Treaty. This is not so. The only restriction the Treaty puts on a Braves' behavior is that they shall not raid pilgrims who are already paying their Treaty.
As for Public Relations "killing the Treaty," I can assure you the Treaty population is doing just fine. The Anti-Treaty forum propaganda doesn't
kulbek wrote:wrote to them in a personal, but they ignored my message.
Here, kulbek, you are just lying outright. You did not send me a PM. I do not see how it would have mattered even if you had, as my response in private will be exactly the same as my response in public.
Faithfully,
-Paul the Paymaster
