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Re: Russians

Postby Dallane » Sat May 18, 2013 5:31 am

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I'll have to look for that next time. We don't have the greatest selection of vodka in texas lol
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Re: Russians

Postby kulbek » Sat May 18, 2013 5:36 am

thl111 wrote: Russian was the loser in Russo-Japanese war and that was a crying shame.


Actually the Russian-Japanese war was lost just because there was a revolution in Russia.

Russia is really invincible country. My ancestors as hereditary military took part in the conquest of various countries. Over the past 200 years they have participated in the capture of: Paris, Berlin, Warsaw, Vienna and many other European and non-European cities.
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Re: Russians

Postby McGovern » Sat May 18, 2013 5:40 am

Moe politics to distract from a real enemy tribe!
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Re: Russians

Postby thl111 » Sat May 18, 2013 5:44 am

Was there a revolution during that war? I thought it was afterward. And here's another one: the Crimean war, another Russian defeat as well, I believe. Anyhow, I enjoy vodka martini :).
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Re: Russians

Postby jwhitehorn » Sat May 18, 2013 6:00 am

The only reason a Russia might be considered "Invincible" is their ability to lose the sheer magnitude of soldiers they do without ever paying attention to this fact. Not unlike the war the Soviet Stupids fought here in Salem. Losing countless characters and yet still battling the Tribe as if they were winning.

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My favorite part of this thread was when they tried to claim the victory over Japan in WWII was somehow all them and vindication for the earlier war. Makes you wonder just what they are putting in those history books.....

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Re: Russians

Postby kulbek » Sat May 18, 2013 6:08 am

thl111 wrote:Was there a revolution during that war? I thought it was afterward.

There was a revolution of 1905



thl111 wrote: And here's another one: the Crimean war, another Russian defeat as well, I believe. .


Russia was fighting alone against the powerful nations of Europe. Coalition forces captured Sevastopol (a third-fortress), we have taken a major city of Kars. And it provided that our armed forces have been worse.

The fact that the war ended without major territorial changes for Russia, it is a victory ... is the victory of the Russian people.

The most significant as the Russian monks of Solovki monastery repelled the attack of British troops.
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Re: Russians

Postby kulbek » Sat May 18, 2013 6:13 am

jwhitehorn wrote:The only reason a Russia might be considered "Invincible" is their ability to lose the sheer magnitude of soldiers they do without ever paying attention to this fact. Not unlike the war the Soviet Stupids fought here in Salem. Losing countless characters and yet still battling the Tribe as if they were winning.

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My favorite part of this thread was when they tried to claim the victory over Japan in WWII was somehow all them and vindication for the earlier war. Makes you wonder just what they are putting in those history books.....

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You forget that most of the losses accounted for peaceful Soviet citizens, burnt in German concentration camps, shot by the Germans and etc. Russian soldiers not to kill civilians.
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Re: Russians

Postby jwhitehorn » Sat May 18, 2013 6:19 am

kulbek wrote:You forget that most of the losses accounted for peaceful Soviet citizens, burnt in German concentration camps, shot by the Germans and etc. Russian soldiers not to kill civilians.



RUSSIAN MILITARY DEATHS: 14,000,000

GERMAN MILITARY DEATHS: 5,500,000

JAPAN MILITARY DEATHS: 2,120,000

AMERICAN MILITARY DEATHS: 416,800

Your military lost more SOLIDERS than all of Germany and Japan combined. I'm not sure if you were just failed to be educated or if there is some massive propaganda machine but now that you have the internet I implore that you please educate yourself to your countries failed military background before spouting nonsense.

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Re: Russians

Postby Ikpeip » Sat May 18, 2013 6:19 am

Good evening,

Russian jingoism and warmongering is not an effective defense to claims that Russians tend to be jingoistic warmongerers. Claiming the derogatory term "Soviet Stupid" is racist is spurious - it demeans your former oppressive Communist government, yes - but no ethnic group.

People call your faction "the Russians" because that's how you've decided to represent yourself. Every time we smash one of your bases ("Russian Lake", Fort Brest, Goldrush, Cherry Blossom, Time Paradox), there's always (empty) trash-talking about "the Russian zerg." If you don't want to be called "the Russians" then don't represent yourself as "the Russians."

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Re: Russians

Postby kulbek » Sat May 18, 2013 6:36 am

jwhitehorn wrote:
kulbek wrote:You forget that most of the losses accounted for peaceful Soviet citizens, burnt in German concentration camps, shot by the Germans and etc. Russian soldiers not to kill civilians.



RUSSIAN MILITARY DEATHS: 14,000,000

GERMAN MILITARY DEATHS: 5,500,000

JAPAN MILITARY DEATHS: 2,120,000

AMERICAN MILITARY DEATHS: 416,800

Your military lost more SOLIDERS than all of Germany and Japan combined. I'm not sure if you were just failed to be educated or if there is some massive propaganda machine but now that you have the internet I implore that you please educate yourself to your countries failed military background before spouting nonsense.

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According to Russian data was lost just 8.5 million people, and it is even provided that some soldiers have counted more than once. For example, my uncle, who was killed, was considered as much for 3 people (3 times).
You also need to take into account:
1. Russian were basically an offensive war from 1942-1943. To cross almost all of Europe.
2. The vast number of Japanese (Kwantung Army) and the German military were killed just Russian.
3. You do not take into consideration the Polish, French, Spanish, Italian, Danish, Norwegian, Lithuanian, Latvian and etc volunteers gone to war against the Soviet Union.
4. You also do not take into account the official forces of Germany's allies (Finland, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and etc)
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