Down with BTK! (One Thread to Rule Them All)

[darnokpl]

I was trying to avoid having to write a big story about this, but it seems I will have to. There is too much confusion and ***** being thrown around. I will go back through my screenshots, and post a full explanation of the events as they happened, with no ***** allegations or 3rd party stories. I was there for everything that went down, except the few hours when Bait was solo destroying BTK while I was asleep. I am not in the habit of making **** up, with the obvious exception of the backstory for Raoul and the contract thread. Everything will be explained, including the motivation behind the thread. However, as this is not yet over, I think doing so would now would be premature, and neglect the ending. As such, I will maybe do a brief summary in an obituary for Mushibag for Tonky's paper, but the full story will have to wait until it is closer to the end.

Confirmed Dallane's bird

[Mushibag]

Why did you guys bother having Raoul post a fake bounty? Are you so worried about your reputations?

The quick answer is we had plans to kill a few birds with one stone. The long answer will be revealed in the full story.

Confirmed Dallane's bird

I don't even know what this means, nor how to respond to it...

[darnokpl]

Well, it seems like disproportionate response to me personally

The skype logs I have read, showed gregl26 bragging about getting an alt into staxjax's village, and the villagers discussing future plans to open the gates during a raid. So yes, we took the issue very seriously, and decided they needed to be punished for their actions.

So you are saying that BTK after issues few days after wipe,
changing leadership and internal conflicts had time to put spy in your town
and was strong enough to scare staxjax with his best defences in this world?

You created spy in that town, so you knew their stats, plans and you seen their unfinished hv?
Still you thought they are going to raid you with 20+ humors people and one ~60 murder alt?

And you tried to give on forum bounty from your alt account to Bait?
Now you are trying to justify this common raid as punishment for their spy in your town, while you did same thing?

[darnokpl]

Confirmed Dallane's bird

I don't even know what this means, nor how to respond to it...

Send him few screens from IRC, as usual:)

[staxjax]

***** lol, darnokpl. You should use a translator to translate everything into polish so you can understand it better.

Then use a translator again for english after you have written out your thoughts in polish, so we can understand it.

[jwhitehorn]

As always your most reliable resource for Salem information will create a thread to both shock and amaze you all with nothing but facts, photoshop and even a movie for this one . So stay tuned..... Until then..... I offer you this considering I've seen both Bait and Dallane have issues "counting" just how many scalps the Chief collected from their army against BTK.

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Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Mushibag]

Send him few screens from IRC, as usual:)

I think you must have me confused with someone else...

In any case, Eulogi (gregl26) has already admitted to putting a spy in our town, so I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that it is still speculation at this point. Secondly, we were not scared, but rather, as I previously stated clearly, decided that they needed to be punished for their actions. If your mommy spanks you because you say a bad word, does that mean she is scared of you?

Regarding the issue of "unfinished hv" I think you need to refer back to your same accusations toward Bait about killing you. I don't understand how, in a sandbox game, one's hv is ever really "finished" so waiting for it to be done before attacking just doesn't make sense, no matter how you're looking at the situation. Also, in order to claim there was an "unfinished hv" there has to first be a "started hv."

Regarding the bounty, if you can't figure it out from what's already around on forums, and my previous statement about killing birds with stones, you will have to wait like everyone else for the full story. But please, spare us your ridiculous assumptions in the mean time.

[Mushibag]

As always your most reliable resource for Salem information will create a thread to both shock and amaze you all with nothing but facts, photoshop and even a movie for this one . So stay tuned..... Until then..... I offer you this considering I've seen both Bait and Dallane have issues "counting" just how many scalps the Chief collected from their army against BTK.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

Chief, no one is questioning the number of scalps, but rather their legitimacy. Alts being sacrificed in a futile attempt to save my character are definitely not considered part of any army.

[gregl26]

Well, it seems like disproportionate response to me personally

The skype logs I have read, showed gregl26 bragging about getting an alt into staxjax's village, and the villagers discussing future plans to open the gates during a raid. So yes, we took the issue very seriously, and decided they needed to be punished for their actions.

So you are saying that BTK after issues few days after wipe,
changing leadership and internal conflicts had time to put spy in your town
and was strong enough to scare staxjax with his best defences in this world?

You created spy in that town, so you knew their stats, plans and you seen their unfinished hv?
Still you thought they are going to raid you with 20+ humors people and one ~60 murder alt?

And you tried to give on forum bounty from your alt account to Bait?
Now you are trying to justify this common raid as punishment for their spy in your town, while you did same thing?

Wow that sums it up pretty nicely. Until Mushi sheds some new light on this like where he got the skype convo from (Pain?) and any other details, I like this summary the best. I don't remember that convo much but it was prob right after we got messed up by Darworth. It is filled with idle speculation on my part prob. If we couldn't even stop one guy (Darworth) then raiding fort knox was just idle speculation in a private chat and wishful thinking. I'm sure most of the log shows me being very impressed with your town.

[Ass_Kraken]

Cool, you killed some alts that were blocking the entrance.