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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby TotalyMoo » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:43 pm

Potjeh wrote:Amazing how there's JPEG artifacting only around the characters while the background is totally fine. And that this wasn't present in previous screenshots.


As far as I can see the background does have artifacts and the other low quality (read: zoomed in) screenshots have the same artifacts, like the one on page 3.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby darnokpl » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:28 pm

rogoku wrote:I like the part were jwhitehorn still thinks he's alive.


Funny I saw him online on my kin list before crash.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby L33LEE » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:09 pm

The thing is, the "real chief" will never be killed in a sense.

As all the characters he uses to "murder" are alts, and he has kept his "main account/character" he uses to create the alts hidden, and secret and the chances are never uses him outside the safe walls, and never uses his main account to murder.

However, all your "alts" you used when you murdered you claimed was "The chief", then once that alt was murdered you claimed they were "clones / twin brothers" so if you never actually kill people with your main character your main character will never be killed, so yes, You are one of many, yet none two the same, you squeem and squrm like you are insane, You are the Chief, yet to really be seen, come outside were its nice and clean.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby Sevenless » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:17 pm

L33LEE wrote:The thing is, the "real chief" will never be killed in a sense.

As all the characters he uses to "murder" are alts, and he has kept his "main account/character" he uses to create the alts hidden, and secret and the chances are never uses him outside the safe walls, and never uses his main account to murder.

However, all your "alts" you used when you murdered you claimed was "The chief", then once that alt was murdered you claimed they were "clones / twin brothers" so if you never actually kill people with your main character your main character will never be killed, so yes, You are one of many, yet none two the same, you squeem and squrm like you are insane, You are the Chief, yet to really be seen, come outside were its nice and clean.


Y'know, murder alts are anything but cheap.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:22 pm

the thing is, there was, is, and will be, NO "real chief".
there will be only chief poop, free poop and more poop.

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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby L33LEE » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:10 pm

Sevenless wrote:
L33LEE wrote:The thing is, the "real chief" will never be killed in a sense.

As all the characters he uses to "murder" are alts, and he has kept his "main account/character" he uses to create the alts hidden, and secret and the chances are never uses him outside the safe walls, and never uses his main account to murder.

However, all your "alts" you used when you murdered you claimed was "The chief", then once that alt was murdered you claimed they were "clones / twin brothers" so if you never actually kill people with your main character your main character will never be killed, so yes, You are one of many, yet none two the same, you squeem and squrm like you are insane, You are the Chief, yet to really be seen, come outside were its nice and clean.


Y'know, murder alts are anything but cheap.


Once you have the facility's in place, and a strong main character to farm bears, you can easily farm enough meats + materials + bars to make 1 new account every 3 days(3 days for oatmeal/cabbage/pumpkins @ 100% speed faster if u increase farm speed) and easy get the new alt to 40/40/40/40, with the ability to murder.

If you have tons stockpiled you could pump them out faster, daily even, if you never reveal your "true main".

Not "cheap" if you buy all the materials, but an estimated 6hours worth of gathering ore / meats, then only needing to refill your furnaces every 40 mins. If you have 5-10 furnaces, you can get enough bars in 6-12 hours of only logging in / out to refill the furnaces.

12 hours worth of work, to make 1 alt to 40/40/40/40, with the ability to murder, Of course only "once you have everything set up".
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby jwhitehorn » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:43 pm

L33LEE wrote:
Once you have the facility's in place, and a strong main character to farm bears, you can easily farm enough meats + materials + bars to make 1 new account every 3 days(3 days for oatmeal/cabbage/pumpkins @ 100% speed faster if u increase farm speed) and easy get the new alt to 40/40/40/40, with the ability to murder.

If you have tons stockpiled you could pump them out faster, daily even, if you never reveal your "true main".

Not "cheap" if you buy all the materials, but an estimated 6hours worth of gathering ore / meats, then only needing to refill your furnaces every 40 mins. If you have 5-10 furnaces, you can get enough bars in 6-12 hours of only logging in / out to refill the furnaces.

12 hours worth of work, to make 1 alt to 40/40/40/40, with the ability to murder, Of course only "once you have everything set up".


Of all the people to explain this to the noob masses the last person I expected was Leelee. The math is close but I'll break down the "KaKa Cloning Facility" as we call it.


CLOAK AND DAGGER
4 Ore Smelters making 14%+ purity Lovers lockets after they mix with the lime. They create an average of 7 Lockets every 45 minutes. So in 8 hours thats 56 Lovers Lockets. Enough to take a freshly ported in KaKa from from 5 C&D to 60 C&D and thats assuming I don't use a random tumble weed or something to get the first few easy levels.

FAITH AND WISDOM
Now that is not actually 8 hours of GRINDING the smelters.... Obviously once fired up there is a good 45 minutes to grind the only other two stats required (Faith and Wisdom + Law and Lore). Faith and Wisdom can be acquired SOLELY with the wooden crucifix. Approx 150 Crucifixes are required. This takes around half a dozen trees or so. Also you run off 2 blocks every 20 seconds... another 30 seconds to whittle them to sticks and another 10 seconds to make the crucifix. So for about 3 hours of the 8 hours that the smelters are cooking your using the crucifixes.

Law and Lore
This one might actually seem like a grind but I can assure you its not. 2 lards, 2 salts, 2 coal = 1 soap. One soap can be turned into 3 Bubbles and THEN sold to boston. Not only does this give the chief satisfaction to know that he is selling his dirty crusty soaps that he has already used to the white man but this also provides him with 6,600 worth of law and lore inspirationals for the low low price of what is essentially two lards. Given that just about every camp the previous KaKa visits in his lifetime has a couple lards it doesn't take long for us to stockpile 40-60 lards in a night of just taking from the white man. The entire Law and Lore tree can be grinded in less than an hour with lards taken from the White Man WHILE MAKING PROFIT selling them to boston.

Humours
I guess this could take time if the KaKa's meant to be killed had any. But they don't. Killing people with less humours than they have is hilarious and then knowing that your aggressors spend more time tracking you than you did building your character makes pushing humours a negative in my opinion.

Conclusion
I like how the forums thinks that the KaKa brother that Bait killed is the first or the last of his kind to be killed :). He represented 8 hours of work.... 5 of which I actually had to play and the other 3 was just waiting on smelters to finish. Bait already admitted he spent 2 hours looking for scents and failing, 1 hour gathering real scents, 3 hours going to the apple, and then 6 hours to the random leanto I got with a wilderness port just to watch him run :). And THAT is the point :). Not only did the KaKa that was killed leave a handful of the scalps in this thread, his aggressor invested more to kill him than I did to make him. Something to ponder next time people see a murder alt as an "investment". I can assure you that our cloning facility can pump out 2 Murdering Kaka's a day.

Oh... And lets stay on topic here shall we :)

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Potjeh wrote:Amazing how there's JPEG artifacting only around the characters while the background is totally fine. And that this wasn't present in previous screenshots.

I'll stop "zooming" in so much on the kill shots since it seems to get your panties in a twist.

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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby staxjax » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:48 pm

Seriously doubt he spent 6 hours walking to your leanto...it could be very possible that whoever tracked you lives close to the leanto and just grabbed scents TP to their base and was there within an hour.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby Sevenless » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:51 pm

Right, but anyone can do that too. Honestly this system is far more beneficial to raiders than it is to hermits due to the way having the setup makes creating new characters incredibly faster. Crafters willing to help makes it even easier honestly.

I assume you at least push humours to 30 or so. It's cheap as hell to do so with farmed foods.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby jwhitehorn » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:57 pm

Sevenless wrote:Right, but anyone can do that too. Honestly this system is far more beneficial to raiders than it is to hermits due to the way having the setup makes creating new characters incredibly faster. Crafters willing to help makes it even easier honestly.

I assume you at least push humours to 30 or so. It's cheap as hell to do so with farmed foods.


Silly White Man. This is what continues to cause your Rangers to get embarassed and your bretheren to be scalped. You assume that the cheif operates on logic and greed. Cheap or not killing people with 5 humours makes for better entertainment and more heart racing. Perhaps this will help you.

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