[Ply] To the death, etc...

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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Darwoth » Thu May 16, 2013 10:55 pm

a zerg has just meant "large group" for years and years now, whether every member of the large group is a face dragging retard or top notch in every way they are still a "zerg" that overwhelms their target with numbers and causes the opponent to avoid instead of fight because no matter how many they kill or how well they do they are still going to lose.
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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Dallane » Thu May 16, 2013 11:37 pm

colesie wrote:
Mereni wrote:You love to claim that the tribe only succeeds in raids because of bugs, but that is also a propagandist lie. The 'undestroyable' waste claim you mention, for example, was an intended mechanic.

...Really?


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>changed after the bug was released by GH

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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Ornery » Fri May 17, 2013 1:49 am

Mereni wrote:
Ornery wrote:The only false bravado I see here is all these not-so-braves suddenly growing sacks and trying to act big to people who bore-quit, when we all know what happened to them when they fought anyone like me or GH in an actual fight and not a zerg or bugraid.


They generally won?


Against nabs outside boston maybe. The last actual fight I had with the tribe (initially a 4v4) resulted in Paul and the chief both dying. Paul being ended by GH, the chief being killed by yours truly in a handicap match against him and Dshaded both after he ran for his life for over 10 minutes at full sprint. And that was no 'chance encounter', they got tracked for almost 2 hours from Gallows Hill with scents they so neatly left for us there. Unless you mean running around a mountain for over hour with a big pink arrow over your head pointing firmly at the guy you're looking for is 'chance'.

Hell, the chief even told me he had to give the big brave tribe a pep talk at Terribad when they saw me (solo again) pop out of my mine and I got to watch them scatter away from my walls like roaches lol (though I DID die there when I charged the 4 of them by myself, #yolo). Maybe that's why you don't see too much "good, serious pvp", the tribe's first reaction was always to run for the hills unless they have 2-4 times as many people? We literally were trying for weeks to organize a group fight to settle everything after GH was raided, and got nothing but himming and hawing and excuses the entire time. Whole tribe against the 4-5 fighters in GH. Where was all this big talk back then? Tucked firmly away until everyone else borequit, as we plainly see here.
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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby colesie » Fri May 17, 2013 2:15 am

Nevr4get GH borequit 2012 :'(
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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Khaztropix » Fri May 17, 2013 2:28 am

Ornery wrote:No idea who that is that challenged me, but if you mean Khaz, he wanted to fight with a 4-600 humour full-geared toon about a week after I lost Terribad Cove. 4-600 humours and full gear versus a 100 humour back-up fighter with no slots, and completely refusing to even remove his gear for it, sounds like a 'challenege' to me, you're right.

And the your siege wasn't so much a siege as it was a bug-raid, and I'm not going to send toons in to defend something I literally cannot defend (this was the unbreakable waste claim bug). Coles had someone outside the claim to try and break it, and I would have been bashing it too if I had didn't have to run 4 hours from boston to get there. You'd have had a fight if you raided it legit. I know, tribe and legit raid is tough to work into the same sentence.

The only false bravado I see here is all these not-so-braves suddenly growing sacks and trying to act big to people who bore-quit, when we all know what happened to them when they fought anyone like me or GH in an actual fight and not a zerg or bugraid.


Really. Come on now... 1 week after you lost Terribad Cove? That was ***** December...

1. Artifices did not come out until end of January
2. I was not even in the tribe until February
3. I asked you for a fight in mid March, about 2 weeks after Mushibag was killed
4. I told you I was mid 300's, which I was, not some 4-600 nonsense
5. You said you had multiple back-up fighters and would have a guy to 300 in a week so we could fight, but that never happened.
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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Ikpeip » Fri May 17, 2013 2:37 am

Ornery wrote:And the your siege wasn't so much a siege as it was a bug-raid, and I'm not going to send toons in to defend something I literally cannot defend (this was the unbreakable waste claim bug). Coles had someone outside the claim to try and break it, and I would have been bashing it too if I had didn't have to run 4 hours from boston to get there. You'd have had a fight if you raided it legit. I know, tribe and legit raid is tough to work into the same sentence.

The only false bravado I see here is all these not-so-braves suddenly growing sacks and trying to act big to people who bore-quit, when we all know what happened to them when they fought anyone like me or GH in an actual fight and not a zerg or bugraid.


Good evening,

You can keep trying to blame other factors for your failures in Salem, but that's only going to hinder your ability to identify your shortcomings and improve your situation. The waste claim mechanic was not bugged - it was poorly implemented. Jorb was informed of the consequences of his implementation and chose not to act until his buddy died. Did it need to be fixed? Yes. Was it a bug? No. There are several other problems with waste claim mechanics he has been informed of, and not acted on. You can also keep revising history, but again this is only going to cloud your judgement going forward.

But back the the point - if you've bore-quit, you've nothing to lose, right? Are you going to step up, or are you just a forum warrior now? Still waiting on either a "yes' or a "no" from both Coles and yourself.

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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Dallane » Fri May 17, 2013 2:46 am

colesie wrote:Nevr4get GH borequit 2012 :'(


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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Ornery » Fri May 17, 2013 3:49 am

Ikpeip wrote: Are you going to step up, or are you just a forum warrior now? Still waiting on either a "yes' or a "no" from both Coles and yourself.

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Ornery wrote:I've been taking any requests for duels for a very long time now over here viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2583


Reading comprehension, it's an art I guess lol.

And Khaz, you told me straight up you had over 400 humours on the guy you were going to use, and refused to use a guy even close to my humours or not use gear. Your reason was something along the lines of "I raised my character and put in the work to get him his gear, why shouldn't I use it?" Against a 100 stat toon with no slots. The time it happened is much less relevant that the fact you essentially wanted a free kill on a character with less than half your stats and no gear. Yet another case of da tribe needing a clear advantage before daring to fight.

As for having another guy ready in a week, why would I put the work in to raise someone solely to fight you when you wouldn't do the same for me, even when YOU issued the duel request? 100 humours are quicker to get than 3-400 and I'm not going out of my way for some random.
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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby colesie » Fri May 17, 2013 4:09 am

Ikpeip wrote:Are you going to step up, or are you just a forum warrior now? Still waiting on either a "yes' or a "no" from both Coles and yourself.

Unlike my good pal Bait here, I have no intentions of leaving a murder scent and losing my character shortly after. Perhaps when defenses are actually worth something I will agree to a legitimate fight to the death.

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Re: [Ply] To the death, etc...

Postby Procne » Fri May 17, 2013 7:42 am

Ikpeip wrote:
Procne wrote:I can fight, but my best character has like 70 humors :D
Not sure if it has rights of the englishmen though.

I can do a character in that range. I can either meet your existing gear or we can fight gearless, as you prefer.

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