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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby FutureForJames » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:12 pm

Sachaztan wrote:Well we do actually know more than that about the player behind Chief...


A bit more, but yet close to nothing.

What is his ambitions? What is his dream? Which political and philosophical ideologies does he agree with? Does he have a tendency to delay or is he more of a "Carpe Diem" person? What kind of relationships does he have with his family and friends? What is his relationship with his coworkers? What things in life does he regret doing and what is he proud of? Does he usually have a smile on his face, or is he more neutral or gloomy?

Lots of questions and we have few answers. That's why we know close to nothing about him as a person.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby bmer » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:33 pm

FutureForJames wrote:
Sachaztan wrote:Well we do actually know more than that about the player behind Chief...


A bit more, but yet close to nothing.

What is his ambitions? What is his dream? Which political and philosophical ideologies does he agree with? Does he have a tendency to delay or is he more of a "Carpe Diem" person? What kind of relationships does he have with his family and friends? What is his relationship with his coworkers? What things in life does he regret doing and what is he proud of? Does he usually have a smile on his face, or is he more neutral or gloomy?

Lots of questions and we have few answers. That's why we know close to nothing about him as a person.


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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby ysbryd » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:49 pm

FutureForJames wrote:
Lots of questions and we have few answers. That's why we know close to nothing about him as a person.


Read a little Freud, catch up on your psychology 101, research compensation tactics, try googling NPD, all of these might give you more insight :)
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby eksu » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:23 pm

FutureForJames wrote:What is his ambitions? What is his dream? Which political and philosophical ideologies does he agree with? Does he have a tendency to delay or is he more of a "Carpe Diem" person? What kind of relationships does he have with his family and friends? What is his relationship with his coworkers? What things in life does he regret doing and what is he proud of? Does he usually have a smile on his face, or is he more neutral or gloomy?

Lots of questions and we have few answers. That's why we know close to nothing about him as a person.


Why should I care even? He's the Original Poster in this thread that's all I need to know.
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby jwhitehorn » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:14 pm

FutureForJames wrote:
A bit more, but yet close to nothing.

What is his ambitions? What is his dream? Which political and philosophical ideologies does he agree with? Does he have a tendency to delay or is he more of a "Carpe Diem" person? What kind of relationships does he have with his family and friends? What is his relationship with his coworkers? What things in life does he regret doing and what is he proud of? Does he usually have a smile on his face, or is he more neutral or gloomy?

Lots of questions and we have few answers. That's why we know close to nothing about him as a person.


Nah I'm pretty sure he is just a crazy person. Most likely living in his mothers basement.

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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby bmer » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:11 pm

jwhitehorn wrote:
FutureForJames wrote:
A bit more, but yet close to nothing.

What is his ambitions? What is his dream? Which political and philosophical ideologies does he agree with? Does he have a tendency to delay or is he more of a "Carpe Diem" person? What kind of relationships does he have with his family and friends? What is his relationship with his coworkers? What things in life does he regret doing and what is he proud of? Does he usually have a smile on his face, or is he more neutral or gloomy?

Lots of questions and we have few answers. That's why we know close to nothing about him as a person.


Nah I'm pretty sure he is just a crazy person. Most likely living in his mothers basement.

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Chief, it sure would be nice to think that people are so stupid that they simplistically reduce you down to "just a crazy person living in his mother's basement". The thing is, no one really suggests or thinks that.

There are lots of people of people in the world who are douchebags, and just plain scummy, but don't live in their mothers' basements -- more than likely, you are one of them, rather than the relatively hard to find parent-basement-dwellers at your age.

tl;dr you come off as an extremely scummy person, and what goes around, comes around

That being said, I don't have any feeling towards the capital-R "Rebellion", in other words, Gallows Hill. From what I have read, they are about as elitist and cliquey, and just as narcissistic as The Tribe. I have absolutely no trouble imagining they did their fair share of crap.

From an outsider's perspective, the forum wars reek of a cringey sort of ego battle. If GH was really interested in running a "Rebellion", then they would focus efforts on organizing and putting together useful/encouraging posts for small-r "rebellion" folk (i.e. the simple everyday folks doing their little bit to resist, or are silently suffering under The Tribe). They would focus on putting together actions that emphasize how they are different from The Tribe in a meaningful way, in order to stir the hearts and minds of the everyday folk.

I have no doubt that a large reason for why the "Rebellion" and the "rebellion" are extremely disorganized more than two months after The Tribe's ascent to power is because GH&co. are more interested in themselves and silly forum wars, rather than putting together the hard work to actually organize resistance, but most importantly because GH&co. are not inspiring as a better alternative -- usually they are at the same level of scummy.

I suppose a game like this needs its villains however, and the natural scum of the earth rise to the occasion?
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby Tylan » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:21 pm

bmer wrote:words



GH isn't rising to the occasion, purportedly, because the siege mechanics have been overhauled and are still very much unfinished. I'm sure with your 6 forum posts that you have a wealth of experience with game mechanics and should know that it takes a long time and a lot of effort to have "nice things" in Salem. Sticking your neck out with an unfinished system unduly risks losing your nice things especially if there is very little to gain by being the hero.

You're right, of course. GH doesn't yet seem to want to be troubled with having to deal with the Tribe directly. But it's not exactly fair of you, dear forum warrior-in-training, to assume that GH is the only thing that can stand up to the Tribe. What' more, it's inappropriate of you to consider the Tribe as the "villains" in need of a good, rough spanking. Long before your forum account was created, in a time we call "pre-Tribe," there were Russians on Plymouth. Lots of them. Most left for greener pastures when they found themselves confronted with an equally, if not more powerful regime with our Plymouth natives. Many gripes were had (and continue to be had) about Russians in a similar fashion to the complaints about the Tribe. Go back to educating yourself if you weren't aware all this had happened. Prior to the Tribe, there were a handful of Rangers fighting off Raiders (a very lucrative pastime if you weren't aware). It was an ineffective system and a cry for help was most likely met with a few thrusts to the face. Now the Tribe offers protection, at obvious cost, and the raiders have gone off elsewhere or are brought to swift justice.

Back to GH. Why is it GH's responsibility to stop the Tribe? Does the possession of above-average knowledge regarding game mechanics and/or the above average input of play time inherently make it one's obligation to confront a group like the Tribe? If that's the case, why not shame the Russians for having left? Surely they could have stopped such oppression. Also, your dismissal of the GH's forum use as only self-stroking ego play is misguided at best, and if after a handful of threads you can't see what they achieve in a few posts in the way of popular opinion against the Tribe, you really don't belong in House of Burgesses.

Personally, I don't think we've seen the "good guys" yet. I think it's entirely possible that a group of altruistic individuals may one day rise up, become strong, and protect the weak. Maybe you can be part of that group instead of posting your feelings regarding the Tribe vs GH in the incorrect thread (please reference the several political threads rather than this one on scalpings). If that is the case, best of luck to you. In the meantime, your attempt at dissecting the two factions mentioned barely seems to scratch the surface of current issues and instead presents your own masturbatory opining by providing Utopian beliefs on the way you feel Plymouth could be.

Also, your overuse of the word "scummy" in describing both the Chief and GH just seemed like you weren't trying. For example, I'd call the Chief "industrious" or perhaps "tyrannical" at times when the ends must justify the means. GH is best described as "indolent."
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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby bmer » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:09 pm

Tylan wrote:
GH isn't rising to the occasion, purportedly, because the siege mechanics have been overhauled and are still very much unfinished. I'm sure with your 6 forum posts that you have a wealth of experience with game mechanics and should know that it takes a long time and a lot of effort to have "nice things" in Salem. Sticking your neck out with an unfinished system unduly risks losing your nice things especially if there is very little to gain by being the hero.

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Back to GH. Why is it GH's responsibility to stop the Tribe?


I am not sure what part of my post suggests it is GH's responsibility to stand up to the Tribe. I merely commented on their big-R "Rebellion", as they portray it on the forums ("Mushibag lives!!!111"), is anything but effective. Don't make a strawman out of me and put words in my mouth, O ancient-forum-warrior.

Tylan wrote:You're right, of course. GH doesn't yet seem to want to be troubled with having to deal with the Tribe directly. But it's not exactly fair of you, dear forum warrior-in-training, to assume that GH is the only thing that can stand up to the Tribe. What' more, it's inappropriate of you to consider the Tribe as the "villains" in need of a good, rough spanking.


I didn't assume that GH is the only one that could. They're the ones who portray themselves as now being the "Rebellion", and I commented specifically and only on that aspect, as they portray it. The fact of the matter is that they have experience with group organization and gameplay mechanics that puts them in a unique position to overthrow The Tribe, if they worked at it, compared to say another startup with less experience. Beyond that, there is nothing that makes GH particularly special.

Unless the forum posts portraying the innocent deaths of new players are false, The Tribe, while not breaking any game rules is hurting others who have as of yet not committed any crime. Their use of force to maintain their system of power (executions, threats, gameplay bugs etc.) make them a group that functions primarily on the use of terror and legitimately criminal conduct (in terms of the game rules) in order to maintain power. Again, not saying all of this is against the rules, but the point is there is no love lost for The Tribe from the average player, given their -- yes -- "villainous" tactics.

Tylan wrote:Also, your dismissal of the GH's forum use as only self-stroking ego play is misguided at best, and if after a handful of threads you can't see what they achieve in a few posts in the way of popular opinion against the Tribe, you really don't belong in House of Burgesses.


Uhh...you sure do love your backhanded tactics when discussing things, eh? I'll ignore the jab and focus on the meat: I'll repeat myself -- GH uses the forums the same way The Tribe does. **** talking galore. Nothing particularly meaningful in terms of how it affects the politics (other than maintaining the status quo in the forum war), even if amusing.

Tylan wrote:Personally, I don't think we've seen the "good guys" yet.


I rest my case then, as that was the main point I was trying to make.

Tylan wrote:I think it's entirely possible that a group of altruistic individuals may one day rise up, become strong, and protect the weak. Maybe you can be part of that group instead of posting your feelings regarding the Tribe vs GH in the incorrect thread (please reference the several political threads rather than this one on scalpings).


The scalpings thread is part of the propaganda and terror tactics of The Tribe. I am not the first so far to have used this thread in this manner, and I am entirely justified.

Responding to what is simply a description of how an average player views the politics on Plymouth with "why don't YOU go do something about it? huh? huh?!" just reeks of being butthurt by the way.

Tylan wrote:In the meantime, your attempt at dissecting the two factions mentioned barely seems to scratch the surface of current issues and instead presents your own masturbatory opining by providing Utopian beliefs on the way you feel Plymouth could be.


I did not provide any Utopian opinions on how Plymouth should be. I did not suggest that I was writing an academic treatise dissecting the politics here. I only provided an opinion that is frankly, echoed in little ways by quite a few people.

If for a moment, you stopped projecting your need to masturbate on the forums on others, you would see that you essentially wrote a long post full of things that weren't said by me, but were in your head. You needed someone to "put down", and associated with them convenient assumptions you could use.

I'd like to finish off by proving that you are only interested in masturbation:
Tylan wrote:Also, your overuse of the word "scummy" in describing both the Chief and GH just seemed like you weren't trying. For example, I'd call the Chief "industrious" or perhaps "tyrannical" at times when the ends must justify the means. GH is best described as "indolent."


You see, I wasn't trying to show off my vocabulary -- I don't *need* to show it off, as my ego is given great blowjobs in real life. I like to use simple words, to convey ideas simply.

The truth is that the truth is the truth.

Scum is scum.

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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby colesie » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:24 pm

bmer wrote:Happy masturbating!

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Re: Scalp Collection Thread

Postby Vigilance » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:38 pm

colesie wrote:
bmer wrote:Happy masturbating!

Thanks


Stop this derail right here.

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