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Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:48 pm
by HolyLight
Question is in the title.

I would rather not spend 7 days waiting for the answer :)

Thanks in advanced for any help.

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:17 pm
by Rubberduckbandit
Wall segment is 1 in all directions and i believe cornerpost is 2-all depending on soak and wall hp.

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:45 pm
by TotalyMeow
Did this change when I wasn't looking? It used to be, may still be, a sort of sqrt function with an effective limit of 5 or 6 spaces. And walls splash as far as corners if you do it right. However, a new wall won't splash as all for about a week, and didn't we remove off claim splashing entirely?

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:12 am
by Argentis
TotalyMeow wrote:Did this change when I wasn't looking? It used to be, may still be, a sort of sqrt function with an effective limit of 5 or 6 spaces. And walls splash as far as corners if you do it right. However, a new wall won't splash as all for about a week, and didn't we remove off claim splashing entirely?


I don't think that off claim splashing was removed unless it was done pre-december. I remember destroy a fence in December which was destroyed in one go. All pouf entirely in an instant. And it was off claim.

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:14 am
by LOMS
TotalyMeow wrote:Did this change when I wasn't looking? It used to be, may still be, a sort of sqrt function with an effective limit of 5 or 6 spaces. And walls splash as far as corners if you do it right. However, a new wall won't splash as all for about a week, and didn't we remove off claim splashing entirely?


18 march, I've reported to JC this: Wooden wall segment isn't spashing stone wall segments right next to it.
He said "will investigate" or something like that.

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Both walls were 6+ months old.

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:23 am
by Lallaith
LOMS wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Did this change when I wasn't looking? It used to be, may still be, a sort of sqrt function with an effective limit of 5 or 6 spaces. And walls splash as far as corners if you do it right. However, a new wall won't splash as all for about a week, and didn't we remove off claim splashing entirely?


18 march, I've reported to JC this: Wooden wall segment isn't spashing stone wall segments right next to it.
He said "will investigate" or something like that.

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Both walls were 6+ months old.


I've observed and described the same to JC a while ago too. The same will happen if you have a brick wall next to that plank and a split rail fence on the other side of the stone fence. The normal segments just don't do anything to walls beside them! I really don't like it. A corner post will still splash damage onto the weaker fence next to it, however i've only observed pieces of weaker fence in the same line of tiles be damaged, not any pieces to the north/south. I really think splash damage was better before, the way things are now people don't really have to think about their wall placements and can really benefit from wall arrangements that would have been laughed at in the past.

As far as i'm aware, off-claim splashing is supposed to be effectively removed because the owners of the claim have a whole week to detect a new wall someone intends to use for splashing.

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:58 pm
by ToorimaSon
TotalyMeow wrote:a sort of sqrt function with an effective limit of 5 or 6 spaces.

so... is it 5 or 6?
and is that the space between? or wall + 4 spaces + wall = 6 space safety.

to make this easy for MM:
A: Wall + 3 space + wall = safe
B: Wall + 4 space + wall = safe
C: Wall + 5 space + wall = safe
D: Wall + 6 space + wall = safe


PS: i want my pick axe back.... again.... >.>

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:26 pm
by JohnCarver
There is no safe. A wall could splash 10 tiles. It just becomes hyper unlikely after the first few tiles.

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:18 am
by LOMS
Can you tell us some more about splash damage mechanics? Like, will old wall, placed offclaim, splash another old wall, placed onclaim? And how does splash damage, generated by wall segments, should work?

Re: Range of wall splash damage.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:25 am
by vysen
JohnCarver wrote:There is no safe. A wall could splash 10 tiles. It just becomes hyper unlikely after the first few tiles.


Why the RNG? Keep out cookie-cutter tactics?