Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

[lachlaan]

Worms gain 10% of the difference between the elemental value of the food they eat and their own elemental value. So a worm with salt 10 that eats a plant with salt 40 would have a new salt value of 10 + (40-10)/10 = 13 Salt. And values can both increase or decrease accordingly, but always by 10% of the difference between food and worm.

[Wournos]

Worms gain 10% of the difference between the elemental value of the food they eat and their own elemental value. So a worm with salt 10 that eats a plant with salt 40 would have a new salt value of 10 + (40-10)/10 = 13 Salt. And values can both increase or decrease accordingly, but always by 10% of the difference between food and worm.

Thank you for that explanation. I'll try keep better eye on my worms from now on.

[Wournos]

I have a different question, related to potting plants and fields.
I have only recently started taking proper notes of what I put in pots and what I plant in fields. But I haven't figured out the proper formula for them. I know that the purity of a pot equals the average value of the elements combined divided by 3 ( (clay+lime+granite)/3 ). I thought that something similar would be used for potting plants ( (plant+water+compost+pot)/4 ) and fields ( (seeds+compost)/2 ) but the results differ slightly.

Has anyone figured out how it really works? Am I way off base? Remember, I'm not a maths head.

Below are my notes of fields sown and potted plants.

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   salt   mercury   sulphur   lead
Cabbage1    22,6   26,09   26,71   24,59
Compost   24,95   25   24,98   25,08
Average   23,775   25,545   25,845   24,835
Result   22,84   24,23   25,36   27,57

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   salt   mercury   sulphur   lead
Cabbage2   22,6   26,09   26,71   24,59
Compost   24,95   25   24,98   25,08
Average   23,775   25,545   25,845   24,835
Result   22,72   27,48   26,4   23,41

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   salt   mercury   sulphur   lead
baby bear2   24,14   25,26   25,84   24,76
Water   20,08   28,99   30,85   20,07
Compost   25,05   24,99   24,98   24,99
Pot   25   25   25   25
Guess   23,5675   26,06   26,6675   23,705
Result   23,76   25,79   26,39   24,06

Sorry for the lack of proper columns.

[lachlaan]

I think both potted plants and fields still have their random factor where the alchemical values get shifted a bit randomly like they used to. Other than that the one thing to keep in mind is that they said the result was greatly biased against wildly different purity values between humus and seeds, at least for fields. I assume pots might have a similar mechanic implemented, where you want to use components of similar purities and compositions.

[BubbaMKII]

fields ( (seeds+compost)/2 )

seeds+compost+compost/3

[Darkside]

I think both potted plants and fields still have their random factor where the alchemical values get shifted a bit randomly like they used to. Other than that the one thing to keep in mind is that they said the result was greatly biased against wildly different purity values between humus and seeds, at least for fields. I assume pots might have a similar mechanic implemented, where you want to use components of similar purities and compositions.

Do pots really have a random factor? I didnt think they did...

[lachlaan]

Do pots really have a random factor? I didnt think they did...

Potted Plant Alchemy: Each generation of potted plants -- including trees -- now have their alchemy values randomized slightly, mixed with the alchemy values of the Gardening Pot, the Humus and the Water.

From "As Above so Below".

[Darkside]

Potted Plant Alchemy: Each generation of potted plants -- including trees -- now have their alchemy values randomized slightly, mixed with the alchemy values of the Gardening Pot, the Humus and the Water.

From "As Above so Below".

Oh wow, that one went right over my head

[Wournos]

fields ( (seeds+compost)/2 )

seeds+compost+compost/3

I tried this and the numbers make even less sense. The first cabbage field now has almost equal elemental values on all instead of a peak on lead. Both bits of compost had the same values. Same deal when I check a newly harvested cotton field (numbers not listed in my previous post).

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   salt   mercury   sulphur   lead
Cotton #1   27,020   24,690   22,170   26,730
Compost   25,440   25,030   24,720   24,810
Compost   25,440   25,030   24,720   24,810
Average   25,967   24,917   23,870   25,450
Result   24,780   25,430   23,990   25,800
            
   salt   mercury   sulphur   lead
Cotton #2   27,020   24,690   22,170   26,730
Compost   25,440   25,030   24,720   24,810
Compost   25,440   25,030   24,720   24,810
Average   25,967   24,917   23,870   25,450
Result   25,110   24,830   21,820   28,240

I really don't like randomness! And I don't like how unreliable this system is. I do hope they find a way to make it less of a grind, less micromanagement but more rewarding.

Also, a side note about BubbaMKII's formula. There should be a parenthesis separating the additional segment from the division or else the numbers gets even more strange. (seeds + compost + compost)/3
I removed the parenthesis of a cotton field average result and the number went from 25.something to over 50.

[lachlaan]

It's probably something a bit different than (seeds + compost + compost)/3, since if it were that easy purity would be easy to maintain. Ultimately the randomness was what the old system consisted of solely : plant lots of fields, wait for the right random roll, replant seeds of random roll