Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

[Erunildo]

Formula:

H(element)=W(element)*0.077 + Bin(element)*0.924

With
H for humus
W for worm

With how many examples did you test your formula?

I made a bin lead 25.44. I got humus lead 25.13 without worm. Adding a 25.0 worm will not change anything. (your formula predict a 25.43 humus).

I tested with 4 different pythons. For worms the formula is different. So either you put a worm in the bin or my formula is crap:P

P.S. This formula can't predict the outcome of the humus without pythons in the bin.

[lachlaan]

Four different pythons with what values each? I'd love to see your results if you wrote them down If they differ in purity% a lot, then you might have proven that it's just worm efficiency that determines how much is contributed.

[Burseig]

Did someone figure out in what manner the bin itself impact purity?
If you guys could post your data.

Here is mine :

Bin with lead boards 25.44 gave humus 25.13 (no worm inside)
Bin with lead boards 36.97 gave humus 28.43 (no worm inside)

[Hans_Lemurson]

Did someone figure out in what manner the bin itself impact purity?
If you guys could post your data.

Here is mine :

Bin with lead boards 25.44 gave humus 25.13 (no worm inside)
Bin with lead boards 36.97 gave humus 28.43 (no worm inside)

Hmm...that's some useful info there. It's a little disturbing actually, given how heavy the weight of Neutrality is.

The ratio of the influences of Board:Neutrality is about 1 : 2.5

I am very curious as to any changes that occur with the addition of Neutral Worms. Should be fairly straightforward to do.

Also, would you be able to report all of the elements? Only one matters game-wise, but they are useful as extra data points to verify computed ratios.

[Burseig]

I am very curious as to any changes that occur with the addition of Neutral Worms. Should be fairly straightforward to do.
Also, would you be able to report all of the elements? Only one matters game-wise, but they are useful as extra data points to verify computed ratios.

I already tried with neutral worm, it doesn t affect humus...but if i look some pages before in this thread someone claims it does. Hope they don t change game mechanics during our experiments,

I don't have all data for the boards anymore, but will try to give more in the future. But in salem we should be able to look at the alchemy of the bin and gardening pots after we place them. It s not the case at the moment and it's very infortunate.

[Erunildo2]

Hey,

first the results of my 2 (couldn't find the other 2:P) initial tests with pythons.

1st python
(25.71/50.44/10.08/13.77)
gave humus (25.05/27/23.83/24.12)

2nd python
(18.69/42.27/16.52/22.53)
gave humus (24.5/26.37/24.33/24.81)

The formula i found works in both those cases. However i made a new lead bin with 29,98 lead boards.
Boards: (22.31/22.85/24.88/29.98)
Humus: (24.20/24.36/24.97/26.48) without any worms.

Humus (24.11/24.35/24.75/26.80) with a 29 lead python.

My formula didn't work this time. I don't know if the purity of the bin is something different than the purity of the boards only. I put another python and will see if i can come up with something.

Also i put in another bin (neutral) all my purity worms/python i have (not much alas). Still the result was 1%,which would mean that high purity worms are useless without a high purity bin (i think someone said so already,just confirming).

I already tried with neutral worm, it doesn t affect humus...but if i look some pages before in this thread someone claims it does. Hope they don t change game mechanics during our experiments,

If you are talking about my formula,yes for some reason you can only calculate the purity of the humus with a python that has some purity (not a 25 one).Don't know why:P

Also how did you make the 36.97 lead boards? How pure was your pot?

[Burseig]

Also how did you make the 36.97 lead boards? How pure was your pot?

Bought the boards to someone (look trade forum on plymouth). I think it s not only pot purity, but you need several generations of trees + good purity humus. You will increase purity of trees/boards more and more.

I m also starting to make some lead trees but I m just starting.

[Darkside]

I have built several purity bins by now and in one case I used same boards but with one bin I used purity wood plugs the other I used plain null purity wood plugs and the bins are producing the same exact humus -- so I feel it is safe to say that any rumors about nail purity or wood plug purity affecting the bin's output are false.

Though to be 100% sure I would really like to get some high purity metal to see if it has any effect in extreme cases maybe

[Burseig]

How can you say you have purity plug?
Because on the item once crafted there is no indication of alchemy, same for nails.
Purity for nails and plug is not implemented (yet?)

[Darkside]

How can you say you have purity plug?
Because on the item once crafted there is no indication of alchemy, same for nails.
Purity for nails and plug is not implemented (yet?)

I used the same purity wood for the boards as the plugs - I chopped off a few woodblocks from it prior to placing on the sawbuck.

This was assuming that the the purity in the plugs or nails were still tracked by the game though not displayed to the user - which is what the rumors going around was saying.