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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Dallane » Sat May 27, 2017 12:33 pm

Darwoth wrote:
Chrumps wrote:
Darwoth wrote:blah blah blah I see a tool but I cannot see the hand



this applies a lot more to the arguments against my general outlook than vice versa.


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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Chrumps » Sat May 27, 2017 12:33 pm

But in this case you focus on blaming a religion instead trying to see who and why is destabilizing western world using "because Muslims are like that" excuse.
E.g. it's not just bombings, it's planting fault lines in the society for a next hundred years at last.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Dallane » Sat May 27, 2017 12:36 pm

Chrumps wrote:But in this case you focus on blaming a religion instead trying to see who and why is destabilizing western world using "because Muslims are like that" excuse.
E.g. it's not just bombings, it's planting fault lines in the society for a next hundred years at last.


How do you explain them doing this for the last few thousand years?
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Chrumps » Sat May 27, 2017 12:41 pm

Dallane wrote:
Chrumps wrote:But in this case you focus on blaming a religion instead trying to see who and why is destabilizing western world using "because Muslims are like that" excuse.
E.g. it's not just bombings, it's planting fault lines in the society for a next hundred years at last.


How do you explain them doing this for the last few thousand years?

How do you explain few thousand years while Islam was founded in 7th century and modern explosives were invented in 19th century.
They must have had a time machine according to your claims.

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Re: so who was it now?

Postby ZoddAlmighty » Sat May 27, 2017 12:45 pm

Wow, imagine that world where you can kill someone only by blowing yourself up.
Guess im stabproff now.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Darwoth » Sat May 27, 2017 1:09 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

yeah it does not count when they are hacking off the limbs of random peasants and farmers with scimitars, they have to blow themselves up and be an official isis member for it to count :lol:

by the way the whole "modern explosives" argument is pretty absurd in and of itself since plain old blackpowder works quite well at blowing people up according to the throngs of people killed in that manner intentionally and accidentally, and arabs were among the first to widely deploy grenades, cannons and "hand cannons" in the ancient world due to the close proximity to china.

a large number of the bombings you hear about to this day the killer used blackpowder (or something similar like broken down fireworks) not a high energy "modern" explosive.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Heffernan » Sun May 28, 2017 6:43 pm

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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Chrumps » Sun May 28, 2017 9:29 pm

You have quite narrow view.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _incidents

Nonetheless, I am not claiming that "Islamists are good" but that stopping at "Islam are bad" is oversimplifying.
It's ridiculous to see how the most hard right wingers in forum are ***** about how Islam is bad rather about how their governments are mishandling it.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Darwoth » Sun May 28, 2017 9:54 pm

that is because the problem is islam and the only people who can not see that are those incapable of objective thought.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Chrumps » Sun May 28, 2017 10:04 pm

You are simply wrong.
If the Islam did not exist something else would be used to destabilize western Europe.

Are these people doing it because of Islam or because of money: https://www.thelocal.it/20170424/italy- ... lers-taxis
http://www.smh.com.au/world/migrant-cri ... w2dmb.html
Now, where the money comes from ?
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