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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Heffernan » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:40 pm

Procne wrote:Ok, we get it, Islam is bad. What's the next step then? What should be done after you convince majority that Islam is bad?


Ban it.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Darwoth » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:49 pm

might start with stopping the current invasion of third world muslims from war torn ***** into your countries.

stop giving them free money, food, housing, clothes, everything? :lol: :lol: :lol:

after that things like gang rapes and crowd beatings might get more punishment than probation?

you might stop persecuting your own citizens for standing up for themselves thus encouraging your men to be men and to grow a backbone again?

get rid of your moronic gun laws so that even the 105 pound swedish blonde can defend herself against the roving pack of jihadi tribe orcs?
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Heffernan » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:54 pm

Darwoth wrote:might start with stopping the current invasion of third world muslims from war torn ***** into your countries.

stop giving them free money, food, housing, clothes, everything? :lol: :lol: :lol:

after that things like gang rapes and crowd beatings might get more punishment than probation?

you might stop persecuting your own citizens for standing up for themselves thus encouraging your men to be men and to grow a backbone again?

get rid of your moronic gun laws so that even the 105 pound swedish blonde can defend herself against the roving pack of jihadi tribe orcs?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year% ... in_Germany

police report that 1,200 women were sexually assaulted and estimate that at least 2,000 men were involved, acting in groups.[25]


most of the 2000 people was so called "Nafris" North African Intensive Criminals

at the end to not be called Racist, to support Merkels Refugee Campain and not make it look like a bad thing that our politicans invited them they played so long with the laws till they got the 1200 Sexual Assaults and Rapes down to 3-4 of wich 1-2 have been sentenced to probation.

THATS my Country for you.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Dallane » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:55 pm

Procne wrote:Ok, we get it, Islam is bad. What's the next step then? What should be done after you convince majority that Islam is bad?


Easy to say that when Poland doesn't take refugees lol
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby TotalyMeow » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:57 pm

Procne wrote:Ok, we get it, Islam is bad. What's the next step then? What should be done after you convince majority that Islam is bad?


I saw an interview of a moderate Immam. I'm sorry I forgot his name so I'm not sure if I can find the interview again. But he was talking about a book called the Sunnah. The Sunnah is a book of things that Muhammad supposedly said and did and things his companions supposedly said and did which were kept as an oral tradition and then eventually written down. Seems it's almost always sold with the Koran, right next to it in bookstores, it's given to prisoners along with the Koran, things like that. And that book is considered almost as important as the Koran. It's also the book from which a lot of the worst of Sharia law and violent interpretations of the Muslim faith come. His advice was that it is not the Muslim faith or the Koran itself that are the main problem, but the ideas put forth in the Sunnah. His recommendation was for an immediate ban of the book everywhere. I don't now how well a ban would work, historically it's a mixed bag, but maybe just discouragement of it's use, emphasis put on that one verse in the Koran, which iirc, Muhammad says that NO other book or saying attributed to him which is not specifically in the Koran should be believed.

Stopping the immigration and the automatic eternal welfare checks for those immigrants, finding some way to encourage a better cultural integration might help as Darwoth seems to be saying. And being less stupid about forcing people to tolerate those who literally see them as enemies and don't want to live in peace with them would help. But that's more of a temporary measure, to really solve this problem, the faith itself has to reform and that culture become more tolerant of other cultures.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Procne » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:57 pm

Dallane wrote:
Procne wrote:Ok, we get it, Islam is bad. What's the next step then? What should be done after you convince majority that Islam is bad?


Easy to say that when Poland doesn't take refugees lol


I haven't said anything yet.

So, Islam is bad, what should happen next?

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Procne wrote:Ok, we get it, Islam is bad. What's the next step then? What should be done after you convince majority that Islam is bad?


Ban it.

And all muslims have to forcibly convert or face jail time?
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Heffernan » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:02 pm

Procne wrote:
Heffernan wrote:
Procne wrote:Ok, we get it, Islam is bad. What's the next step then? What should be done after you convince majority that Islam is bad?


Ban it.

And all muslims have to forcibly convert or face jail time?


think what you want but for me Islam is not a "Religion of Peace" but a Terrorist Organisation.

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Re: so who was it now?

Postby TotalyMeow » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:03 pm

Heffernan, banning a religion has never in the history of the world ever worked. A ban is simply not the solution and will make things worse.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Procne » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:04 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:Stopping the immigration and the automatic eternal welfare checks for those immigrants, finding some way to encourage a better cultural integration might help as Darwoth seems to be saying. And being less stupid about forcing people to tolerate those who literally see them as enemies and don't want to live in peace with them would help.


This makes sense. But running around and shouting how Islam is bad won't get you there. It will lead to religious presecution and pogroms at most.

But that's more of a temporary measure, to really solve this problem, the faith itself has to reform and that culture become more tolerant of other cultures.


I would rather say that it's culture that warps / shapes the religion. Christianity used to be pretty aggressive as well, which simply reflected how warlike Europe used to be. After WW2 Europe is more peace loving (well, was) and so christianity... erm... calmed down.
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Re: so who was it now?

Postby Heffernan » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:06 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:Heffernan, banning a religion has never in the history of the world ever worked. A ban is simply not the solution and will make things worse.


if a """Religion""" teaches people its ok to Stone Woman, Rape Babies, Genital Hurt Woman, Throw Gays of Buildings, murder disbelievers, Threat Woman like Animals etc... is it really a religion? Islam and the Book of Quran seems to serve the only purpose to Destroy all other Religions. thats why i said id ratehr see it as Terrorist Organisation.
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