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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:24 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:There were about 800,000 people at Trump's inauguration


This is an absolute lie and is not based in any factual evidence.. Trump's inauguration crowd was smaller than either of Bush's and much, much smaller than either of Obama's. It is being estimated that it was the smallest inaugural crowd since Nixon's second inaugural crowd.

Need proof? Here are the numbers. Although the Park Service (who's in charge of the National Mall) does not officially tally or release any numbers since the controversy and lawsuit over their deflated numbers of the million man march, other organizations and news outlets do estimate it and they are putting the number at between 250,000 and 400,000. But of course, these are estimates.

Here are cold hard numbers that prove it was the smallest in decades...

The absolute most exact measurement that can predict the size of the crowd compared to the others is the number of subway rides taken to the event. Before Obama's first inauguration 513,000 subway rides were recorded by 11am. His second 317,000. Bush's second had 197,000 subway rides to the inauguration by 11am. TRUMP ONLY HAD 193,000 SUBWAY RIDES TO HIS INAUGURATION BY THE SAME TIME, LESS THAN BUSH'S SECOND INAUGURAL EVENT. His numbers are smaller than all recorded subway inaugural rides including both of Bushes and Clinton's last inaugural, and not even close to either of Obama's.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/ ... rowd-size/

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/ ... attendance

...and before you say anything about buses or any other *****, read the second article. Obama had 800 bus permits last inaugural and huge lines for them, Trump had 200 bus permits and only used 100 buses. Pathetic. In fact the Women's march on Saturday has 1200 bus permits and is most definitely going to be larger than his crowd.

So stop trying to inflate his giant orange head even more Tmeow. It is a fact, he had the smallest inaugural crowd.
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As for his speech... It was garbage compared to either of Obama's and honestly was just bad writing. Apparently he did it himself with some help and it showed. Anyone who thinks it was inspiring is an idiot.

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His first EO was to eliminate mortgage help for the middle class by eliminating tax deductible mortgage write offs for first time home buyers.

His second EO was to eliminate all new regulations and the enforcement of all regulations within the ACA which eliminates the individual mandate of the ACA (Obamacare). This effectively guts it right then and there with absolutely no replacement in place as without the individual mandate the insurance companies will immediately raise rates or drop out of the ACA markets.

This is going to be ugly and every single uninformed person who voted for him is going to regret it eventually as 18-30 million lose their insurance and are only offered useless sky-high deductible insurance by the Republicans by next January. Mark my words.
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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby Darwoth » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:48 pm

His first EO was to eliminate mortgage help for the middle class by eliminating tax deductible mortgage write offs for first time home buyers.

His second EO was to eliminate all new regulations and the enforcement of all regulations within the ACA which eliminates the individual mandate of the ACA (Obamacare). This effectively guts it right then and there with absolutely no replacement in place as without the individual mandate the insurance companies will immediately raise rates or drop out of the ACA markets.


ignoring your retarded twist on both issues it sure does look like things are getting better already1

for the uninformed the recession a few years back was largely caused by the real estate markets crashing when the government tried to intervene and force banks to make loans to welfare ***** that would never repay them so that they could buy a house they could not afford, obama was aiming for a repeat of this and eliminating extra boons through the federal housing administration (aka loans for ***** from the government) is a step toward preventing this. long term it will help see stability return to the real estate market and equity increase when there are not millions of foreclosures to be bought.

the second is he gave regulatory agencies the ability to end the forced participation in obamas ***** via issuance of waivers, obama tried to make it so everyone in the country was FORCED to buy communist obamacare and abandon their superior health insurance plans so that the money could be redistributed to give free coverage to the welfare leeches that claeyt keeps falsely labeling the "middle class", if you did not do so you were penalized. universally across the country this saw costs for people who pay their own way rise dramatically in some places as much as 400% and the quality of their coerage take a massive nosedive. without the forced participation/theft the entire thing can not sustain itself.

what a glorious day! months ago he said the first thing he would do is "repeal obamacare" and the liberals balked and smugly called ***** yet here we are. cant wait until construction of the wall along the mexican border begins!
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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby Dallane » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:40 pm

LOL clay linked fake news to back up his false claim

Oh look the actual photo of the speach.

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God damn I can't wait for my insurance to go back to being amazing again. Ever since omblama not only has my insurance gone up by 100 dollars a paycheck but it covered less. My mother had a choice to either pay 400+ a month for oblamacare or take the tax hit + out of pocket since her job didn't provide insurance. She saved money going out of pocket and actively goes to the dr and has medications.

Finally I won't have to support people who don't want to get a decent job or put down the crack pipe.
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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby Hose » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:55 pm

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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby DarkNacht » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:36 pm

Claeyt wrote:His first EO was to eliminate mortgage help for the middle class by eliminating tax deductible mortgage write offs for first time home buyers.

His second EO was to eliminate all new regulations and the enforcement of all regulations within the ACA which eliminates the individual mandate of the ACA (Obamacare). This effectively guts it right then and there with absolutely no replacement in place as without the individual mandate the insurance companies will immediately raise rates or drop out of the ACA markets.

Those were not the first 2 EOs he signed a bunch having to do with appointments before them. And the mortgage one eliminated a subsidy that, hadn't even be implemented yet, and did nearly nothing to help low and middle income home buyers, but instead would mostly benefit landlords and people buying half million dollar homes with bad credit and little down payment, who are likely to default on their loan. This type of subsidy is used to stimulate the housing market and drive up prices, this can be good if the market is in the middle of a crash but if you do it at the wrong time its likely to create a bubble.
With the ACA one thats not what it did, though I wish it was, it was little more than a symbolic move and a statement of intent. It didn't change any laws, regulations, requirements.
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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby AngelOfSilence » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:51 pm

go trump go ! make america great
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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:21 pm

Meanwhile the crowds at the Women's march are larger than the inauguration with 275,000 subway rides to the event (Trump's inauguration only had 193,000 by the same time and start time) and clear photographic evidence of it being nearly twice as large. :roll:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein ... mkW9zM1YPl

DarkNacht wrote:Those were not the first 2 EOs he signed a bunch having to do with appointments before them. And the mortgage one eliminated a subsidy that, hadn't even be implemented yet, and did nearly nothing to help low and middle income home buyers, but instead would mostly benefit landlords and people buying half million dollar homes with bad credit and little down payment.

...Because you know Obama, always trying to help those landlords and people who could afford half million dollar houses.

This is also completely false. The mortgage help was for FHA backed loans only. These are a one time use only for low income buyers buying their FIRST home. The FHA only backs about 16% of the mortgages in the country and only for low income people. The loan amounted to $29 a month or around 500 dollars a year in help to low income home buyers. This is not a bubble of a buying spree of McMansions.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /96881572/

As for the ACA Executive order, the individual mandate is how it works. We can either be taxed for not having insurance like we do with the ACA (Like in Germany and some other European countries) so as to make it affordable and available to all or we can have Medicare for all like in Canada, France and Britain. There is no middle ground that covers more than 80% of the country, allows for everyone to have insurance and keeps health care affordable. We'll see this soon enough when the ACA is destroyed by the end of next year and millions are without insurance again. This is why major employers of low income workers like Walmart and McDonalds were calling for medicare for all back when Obama was first elected. Canadian, British and French health care has passed us in simplicity and effectiveness and we can barely see their taillights anymore much less keep up with their results.
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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby AngelOfSilence » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:39 pm

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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby Claeyt » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:37 pm

Meanwhile the comparisons with the Obama's during the inauguration are pretty stunning so far.

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This really speaks to his character and to what an ******* you uniformed idiots actually voted for.
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Re: President Trump's Inauguration

Postby Dallane » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:48 pm

LOL cleaty shows 2 gifs on how 2 different couples interact with each other as if not acting like obama makes you a terrible person.

Also STOP DERAILING. Why do you always do this clay? When you lose a argument you have to bring something else up from left field. If you didn't read the title is about the inauguration. You brining up the trashcare in a attempt to derail the inauguration which in fact nothing like you said it is just dumb. Stay on the topic or make a new thread.
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