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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Dallane » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:15 am

CBS is now reporting on the fake news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ9eNAEbkU4&praise=KEK

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You can see the desperation and hatred for America in every post cleaty makes. The libtards are slipping more and more downhill with every word of ***** they spew. Hopefully in 8 years liberalism will be seen as the mental disorder it is and we can have real leaders again.
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Claeyt » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:34 am

THESE ARE WHAT HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED SO FAR FROM THE TRUMP PISS DOSSIER

Fact 1 confirmed from the dossier: Trump campaign staff had contact with Russian Intelligence during the campaign.

The Estonian national newspaper 'The Postimes' is reporting that the Estonian intelligence service has video and tape of a Trump "associate" meeting with a member of the Russian Duma who was acting on behalf of Putin and Russian Intelligence DURING the campaign. It was reported that a Baltic intelligence agency had something this week by Newsweek and Mother Jones it is now confirmed to be Estonia.

The meeting apparently occurred to tell the campaign that Russia was ending the wikileaks operation because it was afraid it had been revealed. The Russian head of the FSB who had told Putin that it wouldn't lead back to Russia had just been released by Putin because of the failure.

http://news.postimees.ee/3976043/estoni ... 1484431403

Fact 2 confirmed from the dossier: The Trump campaign had monetary help from the Russians

The BBC (not fake news in any way) is reporting that Western intelligence agencies have a tape of a Russian Intelligence officer talking about money flowing to the Trump campaign and/or it's employees. This was the basis for the opening of the previously mentioned U.S. counterintelligence Task Force which is ongoing.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Fact 3 confirmed from the dossier: Paul Manafort has had contact with Viktor Yanukovych since Euromaiden

Paul Manafort has had continuing contact up until 2015 with his former Pro-Ukrainian employer. This has been well documented and it is unknown if he had contact with them in 2016 but he has been under an FBI investigation since the Ukrainians found documentation that he had been payed (and not reported it to U.S. officials) by both pro-Russian Ukrainian leadership and Russian Intelligence interests BEFORE the Euromaiden revolution in Ukraine.

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TotalyMeow wrote:The Independent was bought by Alexander Lebedev in 2010. That aside, I'm also seeing the former MI6 agent they seem to have gotten a lot of their info from was working for an opponent of Trump and then the Democratic Party. It's a tad suspicious.

His consulting firm was working for opo research but this is different. First off, this MI6 agent was the head of operations for years in Russia and then their top analyst in London. It's being reported that he was so disturbed with what he found that after the election in November, he continued to work on it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

TotalyMeow wrote:Yes, it says he called the ambassador on Dec 19 to express condolences regarding the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, on Dec 25 to wish him Merry Christmas, and on Dec 28 to express condolences over a Russian plane crash and to set up a call between Trump and Putin after the inauguration. That sounds to me like the guy's trying to do his job.


The incoming NSA director is NOT supposed to have any contact with the Russians that is not coordinated with the current White House. Also they're also reporting that he had 5 phone calls with the Russian embassy on the same day before the sanctions were announced. Trump's guys were informed about the incoming sanctions 3 days before they were announced. Flynn is in violation of the Logan act at the least.

TotalyMeow wrote:Rachel Maddow can't really be trusted in anything and all she's got here is that there was a closed-door meeting that the participants weren't supposed to talk about, but said participants chose to mention that they really hate FBI direct Comey when asked about the meeting. Now, whether Comey had anything to do with the meeting, we know not. "I can't say anything, but I sure hate Comey, draw your own conclusions", isn't the sort of statement I want to draw conclusions about.


The participants or congress and the senators were required to sign a federal confidentiality agreement before the briefing. Comey the head of the FBI, along with the heads of CIA, Treasury department, the NSA and the National security coordinator were all there. They apparently were briefing about the counterintelligence task force that had been formed in September. The task force applied for FISA warrants in October, before the election and it is ongoing.

I posted this info above but maybe you missed it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ru ... cia-2017-1

TotalyMeow wrote:The Daily Mail is a satirical paper that sometimes prints the truth, and sometimes just goes for shock value and readership. This particular article mentions no names, just says 'American officials' have told Israel not to share any intelligence with Trump once he is in office. Now, keeping in mind all the horrible things Obama has been doing as fast as he can to screw Trump over as much as possible before he leaves, it wouldn't surprise me if he had had someone say this to Israel, but it's more a reflection on Obama than it is on Trump.


What the hell are you talking about? First off 'The Daily Mail' is a conservative rag, not a liberal one and yes it sometimes adds to the drama for shock but rarely against Trump. Second, nobody but Trump supporters are spewing nonsense about Obama during transition. Just because he doesn't block a UN condemnation with no teeth against Israeli settlements and just because he ends free citizenship for Cubans he's screwing Trump. I think Trump's screwing himself and making himself look like an idiot without any help from anyone else and his polls show it. This dossier is a thing and it is under investigation. I don't know if it'll go farther than Trump looking like he was used by the Russian like a hanky but it is something. Also Flynn's and Manafort's contacts with Russian intelligence and the ex-pro Russian Ukrainian leader now living in Moscow are already well known.

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I'd like to ask the Trump fans out there what exactly is to much for you to keep supporting him?


As for this question, it really highlights the liberal penchant for putting people into categories, that anyone who voted for Trump must be a Trump fan who will support him unceasingly in everything. I have hopes he'll do okay as president, but he's already done a few things I find a bit iffy and a few things I don't like, like they way he dealt with Carrier. That was a far too socialist type move and it just goes to show that Trump has some pretty liberal leanings; he was a Democrat until a few years ago. I intend to give him a fair chance, he isn't even president yet so there's no information to use to judge how well he is doing as president and whether or not I will be voting for him next election (which is what I assume you mean by 'support'); almost all of what has been reported about him by the media has been overexaggerated, has used language meant to mislead and inflame, and has been overall just ridiculous to the point where I seriously have a hard time believing any of it at all anymore. Which is very upsetting because I would like to be able to make informed decisions about current events and I feel like I'm not being informed.

Now, Trump's tweets are mostly idiotic and someone should change his damn account password, but no matter what he said I really don't think it's a good thing for it to be implied that such powerful government agencies as the ones that make up the intelligence community might try to undermine our actual president. This is something to be upset about.


Trump is doing all of this himself in my opinion. The media is just highlighting his idiocy now.

I believe that he'll be impeached within a year if this keeps going the way it has, at the very least there will be years of hearings about Russian hacking and Russian contacts with the campaign. 3 committees (Including the Senate intelligence committee) have already signed up for hearings and he hasn't even taken office yet.

I think that you're going to be embarrassed that you voted for him and I still have to ask, what exactly would he have to do Tmeow for you to stop defending his actions and tweets? Tell me when we reach it, okay? :roll:

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Because he is a commie satanist who only wants to destroy america.

Why are you guys calling me clay? Is this some sort of Salem clay troll joke? Learn to spell. :roll:

As for Clinton. Her actions are now proven over and over to be legal if bad for open government. 9 Benghazi committee's in a Republican house found nothing and blamed Panetta in the end for lax security and loose contact with Italy.
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Darwoth » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:43 am

claeyt is just mad that president trump did not recognize his self selected transgender and grab him by the *****
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby TotalyMeow » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:50 am

Claeyt wrote:THESE ARE WHAT HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED SO FAR FROM THE TRUMP PISS DOSSIER


[facts 'confirmed' by rumors printed by some new agencies]


I'm not sure some foreign newspapers printing some stories is really confirmation of anything. Especially when it's pretty unclear where they really got that info to begin with.

His consulting firm was working for opo research but this is different. First off, this MI6 agent was the head of operations for years in Russia and then their top analyst in London. It's being reported that he was so disturbed with what he found that after the election in November, he continued to work on it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427


Well, that's nice. "It's being reported." but not by that BBC article you just linked. I read the whole article and it makes some rather shady claims based around a conversation in which the reporter says he talked to some intelligence official who couldn't legally say anything to him, but would say "I'm okay with that" as confirmation of things. Which is the same thing as saying anything to him... So, wtf?

The incoming NSA director is NOT supposed to have any contact with the Russians that is not coordinated with the current White House. Also they're also reporting that he had 5 phone calls with the Russian embassy on the same day before the sanctions were announced. Trump's guys were informed about the incoming sanctions 3 days before they were announced. Flynn is in violation of the Logan act at the least.


They're reporting several contradictory things, actually, and I'm not sure if the Logan Act applies here. Are we having a dispute with Russia? Was he negotiating? I'm sure if anything really happened, he won't get the appointment after all.

The participants or congress and the senators were required to sign a federal confidentiality agreement before the briefing. Comey the head of the FBI, along with the heads of CIA, Treasury department, the NSA and the National security coordinator were all there. They apparently were briefing about the counterintelligence task force that had been formed in September. The task force applied for FISA warrants in October, before the election and it is ongoing.


Yeah, for something that was supposed to be confidential, there seems to be an awful lot being said about it. Of course, they're only prohibited from telling the truth about what happened in that meeting, technically.

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TotalyMeow wrote:This particular article mentions no names, just says 'American officials' have told Israel not to share any intelligence with Trump once he is in office.


What the hell are you talking about? First off 'The Daily Mail' is a conservative rag, not a liberal one and yes it sometimes adds to the drama for shock but rarely against Trump.

Obama ... ends free citizenship for Cubans he's screwing Trump.


I didn't mention its political leanings at all. I called into question its truthfulness. There's a difference between political leanings and truth, and while it might be very tempting to root for the party you agree most with no matter if they are right or wrong, you shouldn't. I don't care if the Daily Mail is supporting Trump in its truth or its lies. I care that it does lie.

Don't get me started on Cuba. Obama changed so many policies on Cuba with the excuse that "What we're doing isn't working." and people applauded him for it, even though the changes he made didn't help. In fact, the conditions in Cuba are now even worse than they were before the changes, and the people of Cuba who used to look to us for hope have been cruelly abandoned. But it's Trump who will have to deal with a lot of the fallout.

3 committees (Including the Senate intelligence committee) have already signed up for hearings and he hasn't even taken office yet.


I tried to find some clue what you're referring to here but only found the confirmation hearings for his cabinet. What are you talking about and what is your source?

I think that you're going to be embarrassed that you voted for him and I still have to ask, what exactly would he have to do Tmeow for you to stop defending his actions and tweets? Tell me when we reach it, okay? :roll:


No, I won't be embarrassed. I knew what I was voting for when I did it. Some part of why I voted for him was that Hillary is still worse. More was that I, like many others, am just sick of all the ***** and if nothing else, Trump does not try to tell everyone that the **** is a gourmet meal. And part of it is that the US political landscape has become a circus so why not send in the clown?

I'm waiting for him to actually do something as president before I defend any of his actions. He hasn't taken any presidential actions yet besides appointing some cabinet members. I approve of some of his appointments. I'm more iffy on others. There's a couple I don't like. Is there a specific one you want to talk about? As for his ridiculous knee-jerk tweeting habits, I don't know how calling them idiotic is defending them. :lol:
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Tomki » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:35 pm

The new breed of "journalists" have to go through liberal brainwash before they can join the big news agencies in all western countries nowadays. This leads to false and biased news reporting from all main stream media. People are luckily becoming more and more aware of this and seek the real information from smaller and independent medias all over the internet.

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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Dallane » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:56 am

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Also how about the Clinton foundation shutting down the Clinton initiative after investigations have opened up for money laundering and financial transactions with islamic terror groups
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Syndarn » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:39 pm

Hello!

Here is a quote from my reply in the NSA snowden thread from Jan 10, 2014.

Syndarn wrote:I don't really see how he had any other choise. If i personally went to America and started asking "the wrong" questions. I would probably be locked up for good pretty fast.
And as i have understood the government doesn't need a reason to detain someone for as long as they like. If something is inconvenient to them it gets taken out of the way pretty fast.

There is a ton of stuff that is ***** up in your country. The majority of the rest of the world knew that even before Snowden released his information. NSA stuff is just the tip of the iceberg.

You will probably have a civil war at your hands soon, i do hope that it doesn't come to that. But i think the future looks very dark for you. Maybe you should open your eyes.

I am personally troubled of what is becoming of America, and i am not even it's citizen. I am very surprised that you don't even raise a eyebrow to question the actions of your own government.


So i hear there is a big riot planned to Trumps Inauguration. I hope i heard lots of lies. Good luck guys.
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby ZoddAlmighty » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:19 pm

Who ever belives in 'Trump piss dosie' should be hospitalized as a retard with no acess to sharp objects. Everything they use should be battery powered (so they dont electricute themself).
The room that they reside should have nice and soft and fluffy floors , so when the realization that the Trump (I know Satan himself) IS their president they wont be abble to hurt themself from bashing their head on the wall.
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Re: Our new President is a piss soaked Russian double agent

Postby Darwoth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:56 pm

next few days should be somewhat amusing as all of the moonbat retards stomp their feet and throw a temper tantrum again during the inauguration :lol:
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