Bug Clients? Bots Exist? Darwoth shows his true Colors.

[Buto]

Also, a lot of this stuff is pretty scetchy when it comes to how it was made. People (and loftar) are telling me that it's probably impossible without server access. If it's true.

Have you played any other MMO? Any of the ones that probably spend as much money looking for and fixing things as France does on their defense budget? I could see why you would think it's "impossible", i'm sure loftar and jorb have done what Turbine, Blizzard, Sony and NC Soft could not.

I'm just saying, I don't use absolutes when talking about things that can be done on a computer personally.

[Claeyt]

Have you played any other MMO? Any of the ones that probably spend as much money looking for and fixing things as France does on their defense budget? I could see why you would think it's "impossible", i'm sure loftar and jorb have done what Turbine, Blizzard, Sony and NC Soft could not.

I'm just saying, I don't use absolutes when talking about things that can be done on a computer personally.

True enough.

Well half the programmers I know on this game have said the sliders, humour growths and hunting bots aren't possible, the other half say sure, why not. What about you Kandarim? I'm interested to know what you think.

[_Gunnar]

Doesn't work on mac. Man I wish i was on windows to take advantage of alloin's generosity

[Buto]

Are you expecting a massive wave of PMs saying "Yeah it's possible, you should see the **** mine can do!"

?

(never mind you probably are)

[Claeyt]

Are you expecting a massive wave of PMs saying "Yeah it's possible, you should see the **** mine can do!"

Well I suppose sort of. I'd rather see someone like you or Kand actually help Loftar close the bug hole instead of developing a client add on to exploit it for yourself in-game.

[Inotdead]

half the programmers I know on this game have said the sliders, humour growths and hunting bots aren't possible

It's strange to hear something like that from a software engineer. You have to know exactly how the client and server interact with each other to be able to tell if there is a possibility to compromise the data exchanged.
You should never dismiss the possibility, that there is an exploitable imperfection in your system.
Botting of all things is doable in pretty much any game.

And then again, it's too much work done for a troll. The one who does it must be really obsessed with you.

[Claeyt]

half the programmers I know on this game have said the sliders, humour growths and hunting bots aren't possible

It's strange to hear something like that from a software engineer.

I'm definitely not that. I have all of the programming skills of a Walrus using a 'Dance, Dance Revolution' game console, which should tell you how bad Darwoth's forum security is.

And then again, it's too much work done for a troll. The one who does it must be really obsessed with you.

Exactly. And for some reason I don't think it's Darwoth.

[Inotdead]

I'm definitely not that.

I didn't mean you personally, I meant the programmers you consulted with.
It's my personal opinion, but development is not a kind of profession where you say: "it's not possible",
It's the kind where you say: "it would be possible, when..."

[Claeyt]

I'm definitely not that.

I didn't mean you personally, I meant the programmers you consulted with.
It's my personal opinion, but development is not a kind of profession where you say: "it's not possible",
It's the kind where you say: "it would be possible, when..."

That's what they basically said. Loftar basically said that "It woudl be possible, when" they had gotten access to his server. He assured me that they hadn't. Some of the other programmers said the same thing. Without knowing exactly what the program is or does we can only assume that they haven't and that the bug client add on of Buto's is just that. A client that abuses bugs in the game. Let's hope Loftar closes them somehow.

[bmjclark]

"Bots exist?"

Is this a real question? It's a seatribe game