The Trump / Russia Controversy

[Dallane]

...and yet both Tmeow and Darwoth won't post RL pics of themselves.

Why would we want you to stalk us more than you already do?

[Claeyt]

Can a real mod please clean up this derail above this post?

Meanwhile,

A third FSB agent, Major Dmitry Dokuchayev who was a deputy director within the FSB's 'Center for Information Security' was arrested for treason. A fourth person, so far unidentified but who was a contractor for the FSB has been arrested. This makes it 4 people who have been arrested for treason so far (and a fifth possibly killed) all with possible connections to information within the dossier concerning connections between Trump's campaign and Russian intelligence.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/ ... m_medium=1

[Dallane]

Can a real mod please clean up this derail above this post?

Meanwhile,

A third FSB agent, Major Dmitry Dokuchayev who was a deputy director within the FSB's 'Center for Information Security' was arrested for treason. A fourth person, so far unidentified but who was a contractor for the FSB has been arrested. This makes it 4 people who have been arrested for treason so far (and a fifth possibly killed) all with possible connections to information within the dossier concerning connections between Trump's campaign and Russian intelligence.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/ ... m_medium=1

More fake news

and

A real mod showed up as requested

[cyko]

Clayt, Trump was elected because the oligarchic higher circles of the democrats decided to betray Bernie Sanders.

That's all. It doesn't need evil russians for that, even if there would have been some activities. It simply doesn't matter.
Of course, there are now several dozends of people, who already planned with an LNG selling, Russia pissing, Europe dividing etc. ... USA. The government of Estonia f.e.

But as i've said before, it doesn't matter.

Instead of wasting your time, preaching conspirative theories to people who think that Lenin was liberal, you should do something more constructive. Afaik, the Sanders movement is still alive and growing. You should use your time for supporting that, instead of lurking in the Salem forums.

And imho, it doesn't matter so much, if Trump has running deals with the russians. At least, not so much like the growing concern, the USA could turn into a fascist nation.

[Darwoth]

yeah dawg it is eveeeeel fascism to expect there to not be 20 million illegal immigrants leaching off of the country, to have improved security along the border of a failed state in the midst of a ten year narco war or to impose a 90 day suspension on allowing entry from wartorn ***** with little or no record keeping that oblahma also had on his short list of problem countries

as someone who would love to see an actual "muslim ban" of any muslim foreigners entering the country i can unfortunately verify that this is nothing of the sort given that 95%of the worlds muslim population is unaffected, but you know facts and **** do not matter to liberal communists looking for something to scream about, the entire ***** thing is more liberal mock hysteria and tantrum throwing over quite literally absolutely nothing and now the media/liberals are so pathetic and desperate to cling to some kind of "sticking it to the man" "victory" over trump they have been grandstanding some liberal obama judges ***** technicality semantics on an oversight that is largely irrelevant and nobody cares about as though moses himself parted the seas after telling the pharaoh to let his people go

pathetic and hilarious, nothing but adult aged children throwing a fit based off media hyperbole.

in other news less than a day after canada had a big "trump sucks we love muslims, we are all muslims" spiel courtesy of their prime minister a muslim decided to go ackbar mode again and shoot a bunch of other muslims for not being muslim enough.

btw there was never a "sanders movement" there was merely a continuation of the "hey this guy said i can have free **** and someone else will have to pay for my useless liberal arts degree" movement

[Darwoth]

oh god it is so nice to have an american president again.

leftover piece of obama trash decides to play politics and interfere because the new AG has not received senate confirmation yet (due to sandbagging from the communists). no problem, kick rocks *****


official statement:

Statement on the Appointment of Dana Boente as Acting Attorney General

The acting Attorney General, Sally Yates, has betrayed the Department of Justice by refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States. This order was approved as to form and legality by the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel.

Ms. Yates is an Obama Administration appointee who is weak on borders and very weak on illegal immigration.

It is time to get serious about protecting our country. Calling for tougher vetting for individuals travelling from seven dangerous places is not extreme. It is reasonable and necessary to protect our country.

Tonight, President Trump relieved Ms. Yates of her duties and subsequently named Dana Boente, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, to serve as Acting Attorney General until Senator Jeff Sessions is finally confirmed by the Senate, where he is being wrongly held up by Democrat senators for strictly political reasons.

[TotalyMeow]

Yeah, the implementation of this was completely ham-handed in so many ways.

I'd been looking into it more today and Obama and ... Carter, I think, both implemented similar policies, but did it quietly, so that it got less attention, but Trump likes to keep everything out in the open. He did fail to announce, though, his intention to set up more safe areas for refugees in the countries in question so they will have shelter until they can either be properly vetted and come here, or go somewhere else, like maybe one of the other Muslim counties where they might be more comfortable. The EO also includes the intention to enforce the laws giving priority to victims of religious persecution in minority religions; Christians especially got short shrift during the Obama administration.

[DarkNacht]

Christians especially got short shrift during the Obama administration.

How so? despite only being a small fraction of those that applied, they made up nearly half of those let in.
Trump's eo is currently terrible for Christian refugees as it leaves them in some cases unprotected in areas where they have to fear for their lives. It has even stranded the families of some of our military's translators, many of whom are Christian, in countries where they are hunted by militias.

[Claeyt]

leftover piece of obama trash decides to play politics and interfere because the new AG has not received senate confirmation yet (due to sandbagging from the communists).

She was THE deputy attorney general that Trump picked out of all of them to be his transitional attorney general. She was initially hired to the justice department during the Bush presidency.

What we are seeing is an unprecedented denial of a presidential administration to the legal advisers he employs. 5 federal judges have now said at least part of this is unconstitutional. 1 of them suspended it's affects nationwide. This will be in the supreme court soon. This will be in front of congress soon as it breaks the 1965 congressional immigration laws. Trump not only rolled this out wrong, it is unconstitutional and will be denied.

This ends in his impeachment if he ignores the courts.

[jesi]

Yeah, the implementation of this was completely ham-handed in so many ways.

I agree with Darwoth on this one. The clumsy roll-out was intentional. The goal was to pander to the base, incite the left, and get certain congressional GOP members to stand up and protest, and then take a PR hit. Bannon is a bomb-throwing troll, nothing more.