Capitalism vs. Socialism

[Pildream]

Most places with high levels of economic freedom are actually usually backwood nations.

Let look at the places with the highest levels of economic freedom: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland, and Canada. Yeah, that looks like a list of the ***** of the world. Now lets look at the lowest: North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan, Iran, and Congo. Definitely places you would want to live.
Backwoods:

successful economy:

Only a hand full of nations has tried Socialism with out a strong capitalist economy to back it up and they always have failed. Capitalism is not the only thing necessary to make a successful nation but it is a critically necessary part, at least at our current level of socio-economic development.
You seem to have the odd idea that Laissez-faire Capitalism is 'unfettered Capitalism' as that is what most of Western Europe and America are moving away from but they are not moving away from Capitalism. Your views on capitalism are 239 years old maybe you should learn about modern capitalism so you look less like an idiot.

this is as lobotomized as jack Nickolson at the end of the movie

You think the countries that you mention are in a mess because of socialism ? you also imply that each state is a closed system ?

edit: erased cursing , i feel better now

[DarkNacht]

Most places with high levels of economic freedom are actually usually backwood nations.

Let look at the places with the highest levels of economic freedom: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland, and Canada. Yeah, that looks like a list of the ***** of the world. Now lets look at the lowest: North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan, Iran, and Congo. Definitely places you would want to live.
Backwoods:

successful economy:

Only a hand full of nations has tried Socialism with out a strong capitalist economy to back it up and they always have failed. Capitalism is not the only thing necessary to make a successful nation but it is a critically necessary part, at least at our current level of socio-economic development.
You seem to have the odd idea that Laissez-faire Capitalism is 'unfettered Capitalism' as that is what most of Western Europe and America are moving away from but they are not moving away from Capitalism. Your views on capitalism are 239 years old maybe you should learn about modern capitalism so you look less like an idiot.

this is as lobotomized as jack Nickolson at the end of the movie

You think the states that you mention are in a mess because of socialism ? you also imply that each state is a closed system ?

edit: erased cursing , i feel better now

What are you talking about? I never said that Socialism contributed to their problems.

[Pildream]

ok sorry if i got this the wrong way, the thing is that at the present capitalism and "free economy" are the main causes of wars around the globe, poverty, ecological destruction etc etc, countries and policies are overwhelmed by multinational corporations and economic fascism ,
so bringing example of some countries with "free economy" being better than others less fortunate , does not present any proof of one ideology being better than the other.
Capitalism is global and constantly struggling to destroy all opposition, not like a conspiracy theory, its systemic

[Vexus]

ok sorry if i got this the wrong way, the thing is that at the present capitalism and "free economy" are the main causes of wars around the globe, poverty, ecological destruction etc etc, countries and policies are overwhelmed by multinational corporations and economic fascism ,
so bringing example of some countries with "free economy" being better than others less fortunate , does not present any proof of one ideology being better than the other.
Capitalism is global and constantly struggling to destroy all opposition, not like a conspiracy theory, its systemic

Yeah this guy is correct. ISIS is killing off people in Iraq because of Capitalism.

WWII was of course caused by Capitalism confirmed. No 'perfect society' was ever preached to the population by Hitler, it was all "free market" thought in Germany right as they caused two world wars...

Iran, the pinnacle of prosperity, is of course not undermining international law by attempting to make nukes, they are the most benevolent dictatorship on the planet today. They didn't manufacture untold numbers of IEDs to send to Iraq to kill US troops. That would be something a Capitalist country would do...

[DarkNacht]

ok sorry if i got this the wrong way, the thing is that at the present capitalism and "free economy" are the main causes of wars around the globe, poverty, ecological destruction etc etc, countries and policies are overwhelmed by multinational corporations and economic fascism ,
so bringing example of some countries with "free economy" being better than others less fortunate , does not present any proof of one ideology being better than the other.
Capitalism is global and constantly struggling to destroy all opposition, not like a conspiracy theory, its systemic

Human greed the the main cause not capitalism. Historical studies show that the rise of capitalism has seen the decrease in wars and related destruction and an increase in standards of living in nations that accept it. There are other things that are needed to make a nation successful as well but capitalism is a vital part.

[Claeyt]

Most places with high levels of economic freedom are actually usually backwood nations.

Let look at the places with the highest levels of economic freedom: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland, and Canada. Yeah, that looks like a list of the ***** of the world.

You realize that you just named some of the most Socialist countries on the planet right? Hong Kong is actaully within a nominally Communist country. New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland and Canada are all Socialist countries.

Now lets look at the lowest: North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan, Iran, and Congo. Definitely places you would want to live.

None of these are Socialist countries. North Korea and Cuba are communist dictatorships. The rest of them are a mix of Theocracies and Dictatorships. Maybe you don't understand but Socialism generally implies that it's a democracy today. I don't think you understand the difference between Socialism and Communism. Cuba and Venezuela are actually pretty nice to visit on vacation. Thousands of Europeans go to Cuban beaches.

Canada and Hong Kong are much more of a Socialist system of government than any of these countries you just named, unless you equate Communist Dictatorships with Socialism.

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[Darwoth]

socialism is great for the lazy, stupid and unmotivated pieces of **** that never want to ascend beyond a low level of mediocrity (given to them at that) and whom were never going to accomplish anything in their life anyway, trouble is the people that are intelligent and motivated enough to "do things" are also intelligent enough to realize if they are doing them for free they might as well not bother and sit on their ass on the dole like everyone else or to move.

which is why socialist countries are universally ****, and capitalist countries are universally superior.

if your lifes ambition is to stuff plugs of steel into a factory machine and get paid 20% more than you should for that job socialism is great, if your ambition is to own or manage the factory it is laughable.

i am quite thankful to have seen this thread the day before launch, everytime i am reminded of how many people here are socialist euroscum i have renewed vigor toward ***** on all of you.

[DarkNacht]

Most places with high levels of economic freedom are actually usually backwood nations.

Let look at the places with the highest levels of economic freedom: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland, and Canada. Yeah, that looks like a list of the ***** of the world.

You realize that you just named some of the most Socialist countries on the planet right? Hong Kong is actaully within a nominally Communist country. New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland and Canada are all Socialist countries.

They are also some of the most capitalist counties and have the most economic freedom.

Now lets look at the lowest: North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan, Iran, and Congo. Definitely places you would want to live.

None of these are Socialist countries. North Korea and Cuba are communist dictatorships. The rest of them are a mix of Theocracies and Dictatorships. Maybe you don't understand but Socialism generally implies that it's a democracy today. I don't think you understand the difference between Socialism and Communism. Cuba and Venezuela are actually pretty nice to visit on vacation. Thousands of Europeans go to Cuban beaches.

Canada and Hong Kong are much more of a Socialist system of government than any of these countries you just named, unless you equate Communist Dictatorships with Socialism.

Not all Socialism is Democratic-Socialism. Socialism can exist in many types of political systems including Theocracies and Dictatorships. In fact Socialism is very common in Theocracies and Dictatorships as it is a great way to placate the masses.
And why are you equating lack of capitalism with socialism? It seems like you don't know what either of these things are, you think that all Capitalism is Laissez-faire and all Socialism is Democratic-Socialism, maybe you should learn about the topics you talk about before making a bigger fool of yourself.