honeymilk wrote:Soo.. What happened to the right of having your own opinions?
Honestly, seeing all this makes me terrified. I am about to have a baby and this is the world he is going to grow up in? A world where you cant be yourself and have your own opinions without having someone judge you so much that it can become physical violence
It shouldn't matter who you voted for and you definitively shouldn't personally attack someone for it- Be a decent human being and give the future president a chance before you riot.
*Packs up and goes back to my little perfect world box where everyone respect each other*
ah good for you komrade! you are starting to realize the true nature of the left.
this is how it has always been for a very very long time, you first need to understand a few basic things.
1> across the world "the left" is nothing but the same old communist party/ideal from over a century ago, they have rebranded themselves under many titles across many countries around the world with slight variations in their agenda. however the literature, belief system, structure and fallout through history is the exact same.
2> throughout history around the globe the communist party has sought to stifle any individualism and impose their collectivist ideal onto others through force, exactly like the "liberals" in america because as mentioned american "liberals" are nothing but the rebranded modern incarnation of communists in this country, the moderate outliers caught up in their ranks are simply clueless young people who had the misfortune of spending their formative years in a region saturated in these people and as such after many years are prone to reactionary thought based off of emotional stimuli instead of logic or facts (aka brainwashing) but make no mistake the core of their movement is tyrannical and suppressive.
they seek to tell you what you can believe and what you can say, how much of your money they will allow you to keep, that your property is not actually yours but "everyones", that you did not create your own success in business but that "the community" did by using your product, what you "need" to be "allowed" to have or not be it a big house, income level, nice car, firearm, certain breed of dog etc, to undermine and replace your religion (or lack thereof) with an absolute belief in the state, the increase of centralized power and removal of freedom of thought.
lets use two examples of the end of the spectrum for both the right and the left.
an ******* on the right might have a gay neighbor and say "hey, go to hell ***" then go back inside and drink beer on his couch while said **** he had addressed minds his own business and engages in butt sex across the street at his house.
an ******* on the left however wants the guy in the above example to be charged with "hate speech" and thrown in jail, to have his employer fire him, to have his family harassed and will stage a protest in front of his house for a week, all because he dared to say something the leftist did not like.
one of these examples is impolite, the other is oppressive.
this is how it has ALWAYS been among the leftists and ALWAYS will be as this is their core, they seek to impose THEIR mandate in every country and corner of the world calling it "progress", "social justice", "social reform" and so on, when their unpopular ideas are rejected the next step is ALWAYS violence and chaos. the majority of the wars in the last century and hundreds of millions dead in purges around the globe were started by the communists seeking to overthrow the systems of the incumbent population and replace them through force with those of their own.
lets not forget a scant few of many thousands of quotes from communist icons:
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" - karl marx
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" - mao zedong
"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end.” - leon trotsky
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas." - joseph stalin
the communist continuously projects himself onto the opposition, how many times have we heard this election how trump supporters are all rotten racists? yet these same people have been heavily and openly advocating and increasingly so for several years the total subjugation of white men and for the past year at any number of these "peaceful protests" they attack white males minding their own business. to these same people openly conservative minorities are also not allowed to form a view that dissents from their own so they are "uncle toms" and "traitors" that must be destroyed alongside the evil white males.
either way it is not illegal or immoral to form your own thoughts and if that means someone decides to be racist that is 100% at their prerogative to do exactly that, the left wants to stigmatize freedom of thought and they always begin by sowing racial divide and outlawing "racism" because when we follow the rabbit hole in the opposite direction more and more things become "racist" such as wanting the people voting in the election for president to actually be an american citizen, or not wanting an increase in taxes for xyz social program, or wanting to maintain high standards in business and academics. they simultaneously do this with a few other themes as well, until eventually any and everything that remotely disagrees with their viewpoint is "selfish" "racist" "privileged" "some kind of phobic and so on.
how many times for the last six months have we been told by the left that trump was going to lose and when he did it would be trump supporters out causing chaos in the streets? funny, i do not remember any riots when obama got elected in 2008 and 2012, or when bill clinton was elected either but here we are with a trump victory and immediately all across the country where the bulk of these scum reside they are doing exactly what they accused us of.
since the end of the civil war there have been secessionist movements in the southern states wanting to vote themselves out of the union as with brexit, there are also some in states like maine. the left has decried these people as "dangerous right wing extremists" for decades, yet now the left in california, oregon and washington are screaming to secede all because trump got elected, total hypocrisy as always
how many times have we been fed the lie about trump/the right are the violent sociopaths full of intolerance for an opposing view? yet we see that all of the trouble at the trump rallies was instigated by them, we see hundreds of clips on youtube of crowds of these people surrounding a lone individual and attacking them because they have a trump sign/hat, we see reports of republican campaign offices being firebombed, we see hundreds of clips of the left stealing trump signs and vandalizing that individuals property, we see them openly advocating murder all across social media.
this is how it has always been among the communists, and this is why earlier in this thread i pointed out that no matter who won the country was on track to a massive upheaval or "civil war" in its future as the divisions run to deep to fix and tensions will continue to rise until it eventually boils over like it always does, the right will not give up basic liberty and freedom to live as they choose and the left will never stop trying to impose themselves on others, in addition the other side does not abide by the same rule of law that we do which is why you see the democrats rampantly cheating every election, you see them setting up sanctuary cities and bringing in millions of illegal votes, you see them telling outright lies against the opposition in the media and so on.
the war between liberty and communism never ended as when the armed conflicts subside in one region or another it is a constant war of ideas that has been going on across the globe for over a hundred years. unfortunately most of you in europe are currently losing but it will not always be that way so long as you do not allow yourselves to be "reeducated", thankfully those of us in the states just had a major victory not just with the election of president trump but also by sweeping congress and the senate and soon tipping the balance of the supreme court back in our direction as well. as such the communists are going to do what they always do create violence and oppression while calling everyone else violent and oppressive.
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