So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

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Re: So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Snowpig » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:57 pm

awww, c'mon:

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Re: So why are the new dev's siding with Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Murphy » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:59 pm

Claeyt wrote:
loftar wrote:
Claeyt wrote:Can I see some examples? :lol:

This thread is one of my favorites, where you attempt to chew me out for something that I explicitly stated the opposite of, and then, even when that error had been pointed out, continue to argue other things which I had already explicitly addressed. My absolute favorite part of that thread has to be that you then brought back up that argument the error of which you had explicitly accepted as an error after it had been pointed out by Champie, as if that just never happened.


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loftar wrote:Of course, this is far from the only time you do these things; it's just the one where I was most directly involved myself. I would've thought that you at least had the self-insight to know that you do these things. Do you simply not read the posts you respond to, or are you willfully ignoring their contents?


Come on, at least try to read the replies you get before replying to them
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Re: So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Inotdead » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:13 pm

Snowpig wrote:awww, c'mon:

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I... Wow.
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Re: So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Kandarim » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:21 pm

Claeyt wrote:
loftar wrote:
Claeyt wrote:Can I see some examples? :lol:

This thread is one of my favorites, where you attempt to chew me out for something that I explicitly stated the opposite of, and then, even when that error had been pointed out, continue to argue other things which I had already explicitly addressed. My absolute favorite part of that thread has to be that you then brought back up that argument the error of which you had explicitly accepted as an error after it had been pointed out by Champie, as if that just never happened.


The opposite of? Are you still talking about the cartoon?

What error? I was crashing in Kand's and Ender's. I fixed it. Champie's wasn't crashing, so what. I erased all and updated.


Wow, defending yourself you actually only enforce the points made by loftar ...
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Re: So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Argost » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:21 pm

Snowpig wrote:awww, c'mon:

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Is that Colsie? I heard he was the new member of the Village people. Of course I think there may be some big time scrutiny on whether he has enough chest hair? :shock:
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Re: So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Dallane » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:57 pm

colesie wrote:Edit: WOW YOU PEOPLE ADDED CENSORS TO THIS FORUM?


What do you mean "you people"?

Can we ban jordan coles for racism now?
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Re: So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Kandarim » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:59 pm

yes, he obviously feels inherently superior to us.
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Re: So Are The New Dev's Siding With Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Murphy » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:00 pm

Dallane wrote:
colesie wrote:Edit: WOW YOU PEOPLE ADDED CENSORS TO THIS FORUM?


What do you mean "you people"?

Can we ban jordan coles for racism now?


Please ban colesie for not worshipping the freedom of censorship
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Re: So why are the new dev's siding with Darwoth's Racism?

Postby loftar » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:44 pm

Claeyt wrote:
loftar wrote:
Claeyt wrote:Can I see some examples? :lol:

This thread is one of my favorites, where you attempt to chew me out for something that I explicitly stated the opposite of, and then, even when that error had been pointed out, continue to argue other things which I had already explicitly addressed. My absolute favorite part of that thread has to be that you then brought back up that argument the error of which you had explicitly accepted as an error after it had been pointed out by Champie, as if that just never happened.


The opposite of? Are you still talking about the cartoon?

What error? I was crashing in Kand's and Ender's. I fixed it. Champie's wasn't crashing, so what. I erased all and updated.

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What a perfect example of the Claegue. Did you not notice that words "this thread" were a link, or did you just not bother to check it out?
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Re: So why are the new dev's siding with Darwoth's Racism?

Postby Banok » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:29 pm

TruthTeller wrote:
Banok wrote:Anyone mentioning genetics within discussions about race is utterly ignorant. Races do not exist scientifically speaking, they are purely a social construct. There is less genetic diversity between black and white people than between different tribes in africa (because all our ancestors came from africa 200k years ago). skin colour is a negligible fraction of our genes which define how humans differ from each other. Yes, there are genetic differences between populations, but there is more variety within a population still than between populations. And there are no genes exclusive to populations or what society define as races. The only subspecies of modern humans are all extinct, we are all 100% the same species, but interestingly some of the slight diversity between human populations is due to interbreeding with those extinct sub-species. For instance our European ancestors interbred with Neanderthals, which one could argue makes us less advanced than africans.

Source: degree in biology specialising in evolution, human genetics, population genetics, etc. And no I didn't actually bother to read this whole thread, I just feel like injecting this into here


Vaguely related question: as a biologist, how do you see on the result of adoption studies where they do IQ-testing of negroids and caucasians to find out if there is a genetic basis connected to being a negroid/caucasian for a difference in IQ?


First of all grouping humans as negroids and caucasians is unscientific, but I think its fairly established that in terms of IQ africans > europeans > asians. I doubt its substantial difference tho in proper scientific no bias tests, but I hadn't read any specific papers so do PM me one if you think I am wrong. I'd bet money its less of a factor than environment (between populations).

Darwoth wrote:saying there is no genetic difference between race and tendecies toward certain behavior patterns based on racial makeup as a result is laughable and tells me your "biology degree" came from classes taught by people like claeyt.

there are major strides in the pharamceutical industry to tailor drugs specifically to the genes of individual races to make them more effective, if we were "all the same" that would not be possible and hundreds of millions would not be getting dumped into their development.


Good luck getting your own degree when you can't read over simplified statements. I never said there isn't genetic differences between populations, I specifically said there was in that very post. However I also said there are no exclusive genes. So obviously so called "race tailored" drugs can never be wholly specific to socially constructed races. anyway I have no desire to educate, especially internet morons, it was stupid of me to post here in there first place, and worse come back here.
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